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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbit View Post


    Age of consent and everything we project as a "child" is only a thing because we created the legal system.

    Before we had laws, it was very normal and even praised to be pregnant before age 18, which is the standard age of consent.
    This guy. This guy knows what's up.

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    Euthanasia should be too, so that we don't get more of these stupid ass posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Wicked View Post
    Listen, there's no rehab for it, feeling bad doesn't make you stop. Growing up my family were strict ultra orthodox Jews. I was taught that masturbation was a sin and that I'd go to hell. I masturbated and then felt horrible about myself, I still went and did it again and again and again. Each time I did it I hated myself, but I still did it because it's natural and just happens. Even if I repressed it, I would find a way. Sure at the time they're doing it they may feel horrible. Afterwards they know what they did was wrong but they'll do it again. Because it's hardwired in their brain, there's no rehab for this perversion.
    Concept has nothing against human nature. The idea of going to hell holds no merit against taking care of your biological needs. As bad as you may feel after masturbating, absolutely nothing's going to happen to the giver (you) nor the receiver (you). Now one can then make the comparison and say pedophilia is the same thing -- the concept of who the act is being performed on holds no merit against taking care of a pedo's biological (read: sexual) needs.

    Except it's not.

    As I said, masturbating does not have any negative repercussions toward the giver nor the receiver. Pedophilia on the other hand, does for reasons I presume you know. This means that there is something wrong and that the wrong can be taught.

    You have to give them a second chance. We're human beings which means we can fuck up but that also means we can redeem ourselves.
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    The problem is that we're people. People are shitty beings, you just gotta keep that in mind.
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    Troll nomination. Allah and Muhammad for 1400 years of bullshit.

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    Haha isnt that like bad because it like shows kids a wrong path. We all go through that stage when we are 10 and we tell our friends we been on redtube and you instantly become a god? Its misleading

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666HiddenMaster666 View Post


    Concept has nothing against human nature. The idea of going to hell holds no merit against taking care of your biological needs. As bad as you may feel after masturbating, absolutely nothing's going to happen to the giver (you) nor the receiver (you). Now one can then make the comparison and say pedophilia is the same thing -- the concept of who the act is being performed on holds no merit against taking care of a pedo's biological (read: sexual) needs.

    Except it's not.

    As I said, masturbating does not have any negative repercussions toward the giver nor the receiver. Pedophilia on the other hand, does for reasons I presume you know. This means that there is something wrong and that the wrong can be taught.

    You have to give them a second chance. We're human beings which means we can fuck up but that also means we can redeem ourselves.
    So because of this thread I've gone and taken a deeper look at pedophilia, turns out I know nothing and I'm not saying that I'm suddenly a Doctor with a PHD and I know everything, just that I'm a bit more informed. From what I've read is that pedophilia is pretty much a sexual orientation, once you're one theres no going back. Most of the men or women who feel these urges hate themselves for it and uninformed ones will turn to alcohol and drugs which only makes things worse. Those are the types of people whom I believe deserve every bit of help we can offer them, these people live their lives in self loathing and hatred at what they feel. Many will live their lives alone and miserable closed away from the world for fear of hurting a child, what our society needs is to open its doors to these humans who didn't choose this and to help them in any way we can.
    But that doesn't mean there aren't ones that deserve castration, ones who have molested children in the past in a "non violent" manner should not be sent to prison but to therapy where they learn to cope so as to make sure it does not happen again in the future. Ones that act out violently and repeatedly deserve the castration, even moreso now that we see how many pedophiles live with their urges without acting on them. In conclusion, most pedophiles deserve to be treated humanely and receive as much help as we can give. But there is a minority that act out violently and or repeatedly who I believe deserve the inhumane treatment of chemical castration.

    But thats just my opinion and I'm only a nobody on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Wicked View Post
    So because of this thread I've gone and taken a deeper look at pedophilia, turns out I know nothing and I'm not saying that I'm suddenly a Doctor with a PHD and I know everything, just that I'm a bit more informed. From what I've read is that pedophilia is pretty much a sexual orientation, once you're one theres no going back. Most of the men or women who feel these urges hate themselves for it and uninformed ones will turn to alcohol and drugs which only makes things worse. Those are the types of people whom I believe deserve every bit of help we can offer them, these people live their lives in self loathing and hatred at what they feel. Many will live their lives alone and miserable closed away from the world for fear of hurting a child, what our society needs is to open its doors to these humans who didn't choose this and to help them in any way we can.
    But that doesn't mean there aren't ones that deserve castration, ones who have molested children in the past in a "non violent" manner should not be sent to prison but to therapy where they learn to cope so as to make sure it does not happen again in the future. Ones that act out violently and repeatedly deserve the castration, even moreso now that we see how many pedophiles live with their urges without acting on them. In conclusion, most pedophiles deserve to be treated humanely and receive as much help as we can give. But there is a minority that act out violently and or repeatedly who I believe deserve the inhumane treatment of chemical castration.

    But thats just my opinion and I'm only a nobody on the internet.
    Ayyyyy now we're getting somewhere
    Quote Originally Posted by Extravagant View Post
    The problem is that we're people. People are shitty beings, you just gotta keep that in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Wicked View Post
    So because of this thread I've gone and taken a deeper look at pedophilia, turns out I know nothing and I'm not saying that I'm suddenly a Doctor with a PHD and I know everything, just that I'm a bit more informed. From what I've read is that pedophilia is pretty much a sexual orientation, once you're one theres no going back. Most of the men or women who feel these urges hate themselves for it and uninformed ones will turn to alcohol and drugs which only makes things worse. Those are the types of people whom I believe deserve every bit of help we can offer them, these people live their lives in self loathing and hatred at what they feel. Many will live their lives alone and miserable closed away from the world for fear of hurting a child, what our society needs is to open its doors to these humans who didn't choose this and to help them in any way we can.
    But that doesn't mean there aren't ones that deserve castration, ones who have molested children in the past in a "non violent" manner should not be sent to prison but to therapy where they learn to cope so as to make sure it does not happen again in the future. Ones that act out violently and repeatedly deserve the castration, even moreso now that we see how many pedophiles live with their urges without acting on them. In conclusion, most pedophiles deserve to be treated humanely and receive as much help as we can give. But there is a minority that act out violently and or repeatedly who I believe deserve the inhumane treatment of chemical castration.

    But thats just my opinion and I'm only a nobody on the internet.
    If they are in terms with their problem and intelligent enough knowing that it may not be considered the brightest idea to fuck kids.
    Then yes, they can get some help. But if you do fuck kids, which I'm sure don't know what's going on until later and then eventually run the risk of getting PTSD among living scarred for life unable to trust people. Then no, just cut their dick off.

    If you can't understand that nobody should be forced, or harmed, just because of something you feel or want.
    Then you're a fucking idiot.

    Violence begets violence, and honestly, I do hope that every traumatized victim get all the support they need, because they do need it.
    I'm not talking about the pedophiles, I have no respect for them even in the slightest, just as I have no respect at all for rapist.
    And as I said, violence begets violence, and I'm ready to deliver some karmic assaults on the world.

    In due time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Gray View Post
    If they are in terms with their problem and intelligent enough knowing that it may not be considered the brightest idea to fuck kids.
    Then yes, they can get some help. But if you do fuck kids, which I'm sure don't know what's going on until later and then eventually run the risk of getting PTSD among living scarred for life unable to trust people. Then no, just cut their dick off.

    If you can't understand that nobody should be forced, or harmed, just because of something you feel or want.
    Then you're a fucking idiot.

    Violence begets violence, and honestly, I do hope that every traumatized victim get all the support they need, because they do need it.
    I'm not talking about the pedophiles, I have no respect for them even in the slightest, just as I have no respect at all for rapist.
    And as I said, violence begets violence, and I'm ready to deliver some karmic assaults on the world.

    In due time.
    So you pretty much agree with what I said? Other than the giving therapy to first time non-violent offenders.





    Quote Originally Posted by 666HiddenMaster666 View Post
    Ayyyyy now we're getting somewhere
    You made a decent case I'm open minded enough to see your way of thinking. I've dealt with enough close-minded individuals in my life to become one myself. I do have my limits though, theres no way you'll convince me that rehabilitation is possible in the case of psychopaths and serial killers to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Wicked View Post
    So you pretty much agree with what I said? Other than the giving therapy to first time non-violent offenders.







    You made a decent case I'm open minded enough to see your way of thinking. I've dealt with enough close-minded individuals in my life to become one myself. I do have my limits though, theres no way you'll convince me that rehabilitation is possible in the case of psychopaths and serial killers to me.
    If you in any way use your genetalia on anyone unwilling or incapable of understanding what's going on.
    That goes for anything, if you in any way force your will upon someone else, then I'd consider it to be violent.
    Please do tell me, when is pedophilia ever non-violent.
    Do they fuck the infants.. just a little?

    Because that's fucking stupid.

    Oh, about the serial killers, they are usually a product of what has happened to them or what has been going on around them, such as, MOLESTATION, RAPE and any other despicable act you can think of, even something that seems at times childish to even bring up, bullying.

    People don't change.
    People always end up the way they started out. No one ever changes. They think they do but they don't. If you're the depressed type now that's the way you'll always be. If you're the mindless happy type now, that's the way you'll be when you grow up. You might lose some weight, your face may clear up, get a body tan, breast enlargement, a sex change, it makes no difference. Essentially, from in front, from behind. Whether you're 13 or 50, you will always be the same.

    So if you're a child molester, even if you repress it, you're still a disgusting waste of space and oxygen and you should suffer x2 for what you have forced upon another person.

    There will be no balance if everyone go and try to hold everyones hand.
    Oh, karma, it'll work itself out, no, it fucking wont. Because everyone seems to have that problem.
    It'll work itself out.. pfsh, the day you see me on the news, I hope you all hunt me as passionately as I hunted these fuckers.
    Violence begets violence, you can't sugar-coat life.

    Don't rationalize or relativize disgusting people, take action.
    Make the world better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Gray View Post
    If you in any way use your genetalia on anyone unwilling or incapable of understanding what's going on.
    That goes for anything, if you in any way force your will upon someone else, then I'd consider it to be violent.
    Please do tell me, when is pedophilia ever non-violent.
    Do they fuck the infants.. just a little?

    Because that's fucking stupid.

    Oh, about the serial killers, they are usually a product of what has happened to them or what has been going on around them, such as, MOLESTATION, RAPE and any other despicable act you can think of, even something that seems at times childish to even bring up, bullying.

    People don't change.
    People always end up the way they started out. No one ever changes. They think they do but they don't. If you're the depressed type now that's the way you'll always be. If you're the mindless happy type now, that's the way you'll be when you grow up. You might lose some weight, your face may clear up, get a body tan, breast enlargement, a sex change, it makes no difference. Essentially, from in front, from behind. Whether you're 13 or 50, you will always be the same.

    So if you're a child molester, even if you repress it, you're still a disgusting waste of space and oxygen and you should suffer x2 for what you have forced upon another person.

    There will be no balance if everyone go and try to hold everyones hand.
    Oh, karma, it'll work itself out, no, it fucking wont. Because everyone seems to have that problem.
    It'll work itself out.. pfsh, the day you see me on the news, I hope you all hunt me as passionately as I hunted these fuckers.
    Violence begets violence, you can't sugar-coat life.

    Don't rationalize or relativize disgusting people, take action.
    Make the world better.
    Non-violent offenders: Those caught with child porn, but never acted on their urges.

    A far as first time non-violent ones I am in no position to put in place standards for what is considered violent or not. The closest thing to be molested I ever had was an unwanted backrub from an older man while I waited at a busstop late at night. Clearly there would be a system in place that varies from pedophile to pedophile, and I'm not going to even begin to discuss that since it'd just be a major shitstorm that I'd rather not delve into. But in cases where it ends in the death of the victim or there is proof its happened multiple time then castration is the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Wicked View Post
    Non-violent offenders: Those caught with child porn, but never acted on their urges.

    A far as first time non-violent ones I am in no position to put in place standards for what is considered violent or not. The closest thing to be molested I ever had was an unwanted backrub from an older man while I waited at a busstop late at night. Clearly there would be a system in place that varies from pedophile to pedophile, and I'm not going to even begin to discuss that since it'd just be a major shitstorm that I'd rather not delve into. But in cases where it ends in the death of the victim or there is proof its happened multiple time then castration is the way to go.
    If you in any way support child-pornography then you're a part of the problem and need some sort of punishment.
    However, if you yourself haven't harmed anyone then I don't see any bigger reason for physical harm of permanent mutilation.
    Just know, if you start watching it, then it will almost certainly, WITHOUT A DOUBT, lead to them becoming molesters or rapists, which I suppose is basically the same thing.

    There should be NO child porn, just like there shouldn't be any molesters, rapists and the like.
    As previously stated, you can't rationalize idiocy.
    Not everyone can be helped or "saved", sometimes you have to think for the greater good.
    Do I want this person near my children, near my family and friends?
    Would you rather hold one person away from the rest rather than let him in and then go, oh I guess that was a bad idea when, not if, when, he has to get his satisfaction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Gray View Post
    If you in any way support child-pornography then you're a part of the problem and need some sort of punishment.
    However, if you yourself haven't harmed anyone then I don't see any bigger reason for physical harm of permanent mutilation.
    Just know, if you start watching it, then it will almost certainly, WITHOUT A DOUBT, lead to them becoming molesters or rapists, which I suppose is basically the same thing.

    There should be NO child porn, just like there shouldn't be any molesters, rapists and the like.
    As previously stated, you can't rationalize idiocy.
    Not everyone can be helped or "saved", sometimes you have to think for the greater good.
    Do I want this person near my children, near my family and friends?
    Would you rather hold one person away from the rest rather than let him in and then go, oh I guess that was a bad idea when, not if, when, he has to get his satisfaction.
    I have to agree with you that watching, distributing or supporting child pornography deserves punishment to whatever extent the courts chose. But again, if you never acted on your urges I don't think the answer is to throw you in prison and pretend like its over. The fact is that by use of certain drugs that reduce the male sex hormones they can make your urges virtually disappear. that coupled with certain forms of therapy can make the individual safe to be around children in a normal public environment, I wouldn't send them off to teach kindergarten or any sort of activity that requires them to be alone in close quarters with a child. Again, it is who they are and they can't change that, its part of their brain chemistry that will never change. Perhaps they can never change but they like it as much as you do and if they could have change they would.

    Thats where I'll end...We clearly have a difference of opinion and I'm fine with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Wicked View Post
    I have to agree with you that watching, distributing or supporting child pornography deserves punishment to whatever extent the courts chose. But again, if you never acted on your urges I don't think the answer is to throw you in prison and pretend like its over. The fact is that by use of certain drugs that reduce the male sex hormones they can make your urges virtually disappear. that coupled with certain forms of therapy can make the individual safe to be around children in a normal public environment, I wouldn't send them off to teach kindergarten or any sort of activity that requires them to be alone in close quarters with a child. Again, it is who they are and they can't change that, its part of their brain chemistry that will never change. Perhaps they can never change but they like it as much as you do and if they could have change they would.

    Thats where I'll end...We clearly have a difference of opinion and I'm fine with that.
    No, I don't think being thrown into prison has helped especially many, it's just safer for the general public to keep risks away from people.
    Their urges won't ever disappear, they'll still be there, there's only so much rehabilitation can do, granted some people have a strong willpower and do not act upon their urges, these are the people you should be helping to understand how much they can raze other peoples lives.
    People don't change, unless they themselves come to a jarring self-realization, it so rarely happens, that I'd honestly say getting struck by lightning is more likely, I should know, my father, twice.

    People don't change at all unless they think what they're doing is wrong.
    And that is a fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Gray View Post
    I should know, my father, twice.
    I cannot even begin to imagine...I don't want to...

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    Problem is: you can go to prison for 10+ years for watching a "cp" video that's been on the internet for 10+ years. People shouldn't be put away for watching, they should be put away for acting. Also, a distinction needs to be made between child molesters and pedophiles, which are often not synonymous.

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