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    [Help] Idiotic relatives..

    My relatives say that killing gays etc. is done away with in the bible can you show a verse that could prove this? (hopefully not).



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    Quote Originally Posted by HetoxHD View Post
    My relatives say that killing gays etc. is done away with in the bible can you show a verse that could prove this? (hopefully not).
    By "done away with" do you mean that it supports killing gays?
    https://biblehub.com/leviticus/20-13.htm

    It does, but if you wish to counter that you can always play the contradiction game.
    Example: Jesus said love one another or w/e, so therefore this law is invalid.

    Or you can play the "arbitrary law seperation" where you just ignore god's commandments because of "jesus reasons".
    Example: X law is ceremonial or X law only applies to the jews, christians don't have to obey those laws.(they do, they just don't want to).



    Eh, really at the end of the day you'll find one of these three as the response.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    By "done away with" do you mean that it supports killing gays?
    https://biblehub.com/leviticus/20-13.htm

    It does, but if you wish to counter that you can always play the contradiction game.
    Example: Jesus said love one another or w/e, so therefore this law is invalid.

    Or you can play the "arbitrary law seperation" where you just ignore god's commandments because of "jesus reasons".
    Example: X law is ceremonial or X law only applies to the jews, christians don't have to obey those laws.(they do, they just don't want to).





    Eh, really at the end of the day you'll find one of these three as the response.


    By "done away with" they mean that since the temple is not there they cannot do those things



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    Quote Originally Posted by HetoxHD View Post
    By "done away with" they mean that since the temple is not there they cannot do those things
    What temple? God's laws were not dependent upon a temple lol.


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    Well my relatives are jewish so there is a bit of a difference



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    Quote Originally Posted by HetoxHD View Post
    Well my relatives are jewish so there is a bit of a difference
    Yeah, but I don't remember a temple clause.

    You'd have to ask them about that shit, because god's laws (as far as my understanding) always were dependent upon the contract with his people, not their establishment of a temple.


    Though you might want to consider that they might be jewish-atheistic/agnostic, so they don't really care about the laws to begin with and kind of "half-ass" the stuff.

    At that point really there isn't much to do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post

    Yeah, but I don't remember a temple clause.

    You'd have to ask them about that shit, because god's laws (as far as my understanding) always were dependent upon the contract with his people, not their establishment of a temple.


    Though you might want to consider that they might be jewish-atheistic/agnostic, so they don't really care about the laws to begin with and kind of "half-ass" the stuff.

    At that point really there isn't much to do.
    Thanks this helps! There never was a scripture saying that the law was gone and shit, I've tried the argument but now this will help me a lot



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