Which computer is better?

[Random Clustering]

PSA. Please never, Ever, Ever buy pre builts. BUILD YOUR OWN. It is not rocket science, It's super easy and you don't need to be a techie. I can't believe they're selling a AMD CPU paired with a R7 260x for 875$, That is a complete rip off!!

[Drama]

the first one isnt cheaper,1000$ cad.
neither do the second.
https://www.amazon.ca/MSI-Nightblade.../dp/B017LJQLKK

It's actually cheaper. $753 USD converted to CAD is around 950. Cheaper.

[Koala]

It's actually cheaper. $753 USD converted to CAD is around 950. Cheaper.

ohh you talking about my build,still almost the same thing but 100$ usd cheaper.

[Drama]

ohh you talking about my build,still almost the same thing but 100$ usd cheaper.

Money is money, i'll save $100 bucks anyday.

[Walkyr]

The last build was still cheaper, i don't know why walkyr told you to look at the price OP is paying as if he had a budget but the first one was cheaper lol. Also I'm sure you can tune down the card and CPU.

I'm just doing assumptions that he has a budget of around CND1000, why else would he be looking for a CND1000 PC instead of a CND2500 one?

If you don't want to build one yourself, you can always go to a local pc shop and ask if they can build one for you.

Beth of both worlds. You pay little extra for them to build it together, and seeing as they know PC Parts in and out, they'd make it quite fast for probably a small charge. And even if they'd charge more then the next local pc shop, you'd still save some cash.


That being said, I made a list over on the CA site, and here's the list.

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($236.95 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($37.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card ($233.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($42.99 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($113.98 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $995.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

[Koala]

I'm just doing assumptions that he has a budget of around CND1000, why else would he be looking for a CND1000 PC instead of a CND2500 one?


Beth of both worlds. You pay little extra for them to build it together, and seeing as they know PC Parts in and out, they'd make it quite fast for probably a small charge. And even if they'd charge more then the next local pc shop, you'd still save some cash.


That being said, I made a list over on the CA site, and here's the list.

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($236.95 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($37.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card ($233.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($42.99 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($113.98 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $995.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

i build better for cheaper price....,did you look at my builds?
i can make something for 1000$ if you want.

edit here is a build for 1000$:

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($198.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($53.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($42.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital AV-GP 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($42.40 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB TURBO Video Card ($595.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Zalman ZM-T1 PLUS MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($27.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1014.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by ************ 2016-08-19 04:27 EDT-0400

another build for 1000$,just less performance but it looks better:


CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($198.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($53.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($42.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital AV-GP 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($42.40 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($429.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $992.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by ************ 2016-08-19 04:33 EDT-0400


made build for 800$ as well:

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($53.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($41.36 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($419.95 @ B&H)
Case: Zalman ZM-T1 PLUS MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($27.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($43.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $806.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by ************ 2016-08-19 04:38 EDT-0400

[Walkyr]

i build better for cheaper price....,did you look at my builds?

I did, but they're all made in the US Site. The US is A LOT cheaper in terms of PC Components. You have to switch to the CA Version and build it together there, only like so you can see the true price OP would have to pay. In the US you can build a super strong PC for really cheap.

FYI; Don't Single-Channel RAM. DDR stands for Double Date Rate, and the MHz is only operated if there's Dual Channel. Else it's halved and can make your head scratch for why the RAM is being shown as something like 1200MHz

[Koala]

I did, but they're all made in the US Site. The US is A LOT cheaper in terms of PC Components. You have to switch to the CA Version and build it together there, only like so you can see the true price OP would have to pay. In the US you can build a super strong PC for really cheap.

FYI; Don't Single-Channel RAM. DDR stands for Double Date Rate, and the MHz is only operated if there's Dual Channel. Else it's halved and can make your head scratch for why the RAM is being shown as something like 1200MHz

in real word situation it makes no different, its better to have dual channel,i was ware to that.

[Walkyr]

in real word situation it makes no different, its better to have dual channel,i was ware to that.

Yeah, but it's still better to Dual Channel them. I just saw it because your build with the RAM Sticks were so inconsistent. (One Build had 16GB, others had 8GB).
Dunno about you, but I'm the type of guy who uses A LOT of RAM (Having A LOT of Chrome Tabs and sometimes Games over Games open, so for me having 16GB is just passable. (Filled out all 4 Channels with 8GB Corsair Vengeance Sticks)

[Koala]

Yeah, but it's still better to Dual Channel them. I just saw it because your build with the RAM Sticks were so inconsistent. (One Build had 16GB, others had 8GB).
Dunno about you, but I'm the type of guy who uses A LOT of RAM (Having A LOT of Chrome Tabs and sometimes Games over Games open, so for me having 16GB is just passable. (Filled out all 4 Channels with 8GB Corsair Vengeance Sticks)

having more then 8 ram is not necessary for most people ,for most people its luxuries,the average gamer will never need more than 8gb atm.

[Walkyr]

having more then 8 ram is not necessary for most people ,for most people its luxuries,the average gamer will never need more than 8gb atm.

Yeah, that's true. But the prices are still cheap for 16GB ($80 isn't much for DDR4 2x8GB 2400MHz), so I always include that. But I understand your point. May as well just throw in 2x4GB, you still have enough room to upgrade if ever need to.

[Koala]

Yeah, that's true. But the prices are still cheap for 16GB ($80 isn't much for DDR4 2x8GB 2400MHz), so I always include that. But I understand your point. May as well just throw in 2x4GB, you still have enough room to upgrade if ever need to.

there is no point to include it if u can get a better cpu/gpu with the money.

[Walkyr]

there is no point to include it if u can get a better cpu/gpu with the money.

It always depends on ones setup, really. One might need 16GB RAM then a 6800K. (Especially Dual-Monitor Heavy Users like me who rely on RAM a lot with how many tabs, games and other shit is open). So there IS a point, but it's not for everybody.

[Koala]

It always depends on ones setup, really. One might need 16GB RAM then a 6800K. (Especially Dual-Monitor Heavy Users like me who rely on RAM a lot with how many tabs, games and other shit is open). So there IS a point, but it's not for everybody.

i agree with everything u wrote

[Gixxer]

I agree totally, it is best build your own if you make a list of things you like to have. If unsure, any computer shop would build it if you supply or buy parts from them.