Is it possible to disprove the existence of God?

[Steve]

I'm an atheist and I don't believe in god, though, I respect anyone who does believe in good as much as anyone else.

[Raple]

Never said I could, I said if I could. I don't understand where you're getting "is not apart of it it's self". Let me ask you this can you observe your self? You are your self yet you can observe your self. That refutes this notion that for god to observe the universe he must not be apart of the universe.

Now if all of the stuff in our universe can be translated to data that can then be observed by something else, and we knew this then that means god exists because the idea is god is the creator of the universe, but does god exist after creating the universe what is the role of god? So giving god a role (to observe the universe) then makes the statement "God cannot be proven/disproven" invalid. God can be proven if you give god attributes that allow god to exist.

Now I'm not stating whether or not we are capable of knowing if the stuff in this universe can be observed, I'm stating that if we consider it can be observed then god is the one to observe it and therefor god exists.


What I think you're thinking is like a child poking a fish tank. The child is observing the fish's reality from the outside, but that's not the case here. You do not have to step back to see the whole universe if you're capable of instantly viewing everything in a single moment, understand? You're thinking that the only way to observe a lower dimension is to be at a higher dimension to have a relation that can be compared. That doesn't have to be the case if we're talking about the super natural. For all you know there could be something outside of our concept of observation, there may not even be a need for relations or comparisons for god to make an observation. Ever thought maybe every single possible relation is already compared instantly because it's inherit in the one observing?

Willing to guess I've either blown your mind or completely lost you.

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To elaborate a little bit more. God knows everything. So observing our universe wouldn't require god to look at it from the outside. He would already have all the data observed without even having to in our words observe it. Hope that makes as much sense as it possibly can.

How did that prove anything, you literally said some bible quotes and old wisdom in a melodramatic way. Everything you just said can be disproved simply by reverse logic, because you are speaking completely in hypothetical.

Also, how can you compare the observance of myself to something like the idea of God, whom can observe everyone at every time. You are also assuming with every statement you typed that God is a even a "thing" that can be comprehended by our laws of reality. How can you compare something already proven by test and practice and say that there is a "thing" that breaks all of the that still exists within the same plane as us.

To have the ability to "instantly view everything in a single moment" in this universe would mean you are everywhere and everything. That would also mean that you are not something that exists within the universe, but you are IT. Your entire entity can not be a part of yourself. Since you like using analogies to humans, here's one. My entire body is not a part of my entire body, because it is entire.

Blown my mind my ass, what is with these absolutely abhorrent CS these days.

[niggo]

Is it possible to disprove the existence of God?

imo no, but on the other hand you cant prove hes actually there aswell (except when you die and meet him then or not

[Dab]

How did that prove anything, you literally said some bible quotes and old wisdom in a melodramatic way. Everything you just said can be disproved simply by reverse logic, because you are speaking completely in hypothetical.

Also, how can you compare the observance of myself to something like the idea of God, whom can observe everyone at every time. You are also assuming with every statement you typed that God is a even a "thing" that can be comprehended by our laws of reality. How can you compare something already proven by test and practice and say that there is a "thing" that breaks all of the that still exists within the same plane as us.

To have the ability to "instantly view everything in a single moment" in this universe would mean you are everywhere and everything. That would also mean that you are not something that exists within the universe, but you are IT. Your entire entity can not be a part of yourself. Since you like using analogies to humans, here's one. My entire body is not a part of my entire body, because it is entire.

Blown my mind my ass, what is with these absolutely abhorrent CS these days.

You don't even know what you're talking about.

[Gelatin-chan]

What's the point if you can't prove either thing?

[Dab]

What's the point if you can't prove either thing?

To advance an argument.

[[MPGH]Mayion]

Blown my mind my ass, what is with these absolutely abhorrent CS these days.

weak staff not able to control cs these days, smh

[Raple]

To advance an argument.

Yeah, that's what it's clearly about. You advance an argument by saying we don't know what we're talking about and then scuttling off.

No wonder you're a CS.

[Predator]

@Raple

[Dab]

Yeah, that's what it's clearly about. You advance an argument by saying we don't know what we're talking about and then scuttling off.

No wonder you're a CS.

I explained how god could observe without observing. You went on a non-sense rant about bible verses, I wasn't even aware I was referencing the bible. Shit maybe I should start my own religion huh?

[Gaydow]

Come'on this is stupid.Prove this galaxy is not a real life asshole.

"Prove this galaxy is not a real life asshole."

Guys, never go full retard.

[Raple]

I explained how god could observe without observing. You went on a non-sense rant about bible verses, I wasn't even aware I was referencing the bible. Shit maybe I should start my own religion huh?

Only 1 sentence even mentioned bible verses, which proves to me you didn't even read my response and therefore are a bigot.

[Spitt]

Instead of me proving that your god does not exist, how about you prove to me that it exists? Only one stipulation here - you can't use words which imply a "leap of faith".

And before you go quoting the bible, remember that it was written by men.


As for the argument that air cannot be seen, that is untrue. The molecules are small, but given a great distance, they can be seen. For example when you view the earth from space, you see "atmosphere" thats air, a combination of various gases. It can also be proved, by removing air, for example go up into space without a space suit to protect you. You die. The same is true for going underwater without a breathing apparatus. The same cannot be said for your gods.

The thing about most believers, which is annoying, is that if you can disprove even one part of their belief, they will simply discount it, and give another argument. They change their beliefs on a whim, to match their overall belief that a god exists.

[CloudUser]

"Prove this galaxy is not a real life asshole."

Guys, never go full retard.

Never go full shadow*
I wanted to show how stupid I believed this point of view was where as you just +1upped your post count.

[Rudol Von Stroheim]

You can't prove god exists in a nutshell

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I would comment something witty about Allah. But hes just a pagan, no need.

Pagan how?