Best governing method

[Alen]

Personally I believe something like an aristocratic democracy would work best, with only the smartest and brightest allowed to lead.

/discuss

[[MPGH]Austin]

i'd say communism or gtfo.

[HannibalJr]

There's no Bright or Smart people..

[Evelyn]

You and I have had long discussions on this topic.

And while, it may not sound "Equal" or "just" I'd have to agree with you Alen, A society in which only those who are .... Worthy for lack of a better term should hold any influence in what the government should do.

My "Ideal" form of government is Totalitarianism but since just the mention of that sends the average person into fear or hatred, I'd go with an Aristocratic Democracy type society as well, Based on Intellect, With A Limited "Cleansed" Population (Not on the basis of ethnicity but positive contribution to Humanity).

[Zen]

A socialist/ulitartian/direct democracy would work best in my opinion, with the educational system acting somewhat like it does now, giving an introduction into each field and the subgenres, finding what people do best at, having them go down that path. ill explain more later, dont have enough time now.

[Alen]

You and I have had long discussions on this topic.

And while, it may not sound "Equal" or "just" I'd have to agree with you Alen, A society in which only those who are .... Worthy for lack of a better term should hold any influence in what the government should do.

My "Ideal" form of government is Totalitarianism but since just the mention of that sends the average person into fear or hatred, I'd go with an Aristocratic Democracy type society as well, Based on Intellect, With A Limited "Cleansed" Population (Not on the basis of ethnicity but positive contribution to Humanity).

Well in a world that is "just" those that are able to do more and contribute more to our progress (those that are smart, knowledgeable and hard working) should be given more rights than those that cannot.

And as far as totalitarian systems go ... how exactly would you choose the leader? I doubt you'll find someone who will be able to lead by himself and only work for the common good

[marcusalier]

EVERYONE IS SMART! EVERYONE IS EQUAL! EVERYONE IS EVERYONE AND EVERYONE IS YOU!

[Alen]

EVERYONE IS SMART! EVERYONE IS EQUAL! EVERYONE IS EVERYONE AND EVERYONE IS YOU!

And then you end up giving homeless people with no education or knowledge the responsibility of choosing what's best for the country? No thank you

[tdct]

no, that would fail, the intellectual would give themselves too much power, and eventually the ordinary would be like the untouchables in China.

[Zen]

ok...ive been thinking at this weirdly, sugar fucks with me too mcuh i need to stick to just caffiene but i digress...

I believe, that a republic is a good substituion for a direct democracy on a large scale, as long as there are checks and balances (which we have) AND an IQ/Common Sense test done having a minimum IQ to become president/elected official, or some kinda test....also i believe for the economic side, socialism, like canada would be best...you get the benefiets of capatilism and the benefiets of communism

really dumbed down view, im mad tired but there ya go

[Alen]

no, that would fail, the intellectual would give themselves too much power, and eventually the ordinary would be like the untouchables in China.

Every system has it's flaws. I'm ofc assuming that the people leading are smart enough to know that what they're doing should be done for the future of the country. But even if they aren't, the only difference would be that instead of powerful people being picked by the uneducated they'll be picked by the intelligent, hard working and resourceful people.

ok...ive been thinking at this weirdly, sugar fucks with me too mcuh i need to stick to just caffiene but i digress...

I believe, that a republic is a good substituion for a direct democracy on a large scale, as long as there are checks and balances (which we have) AND an IQ/Common Sense test done having a minimum IQ to become president/elected official, or some kinda test....also i believe for the economic side, socialism, like canada would be best...you get the benefiets of capatilism and the benefiets of communism

really dumbed down view, im mad tired but there ya go

The problem with any form of communism is that it will only work in a perfect utopian world where there is no need for progress and where everyone is satisfied ... but that's kinda beside the point.

[Zen]

Im not saying full out communism, on paper communism would be the Ideal form of ECONOMIC gov't (major misconception is that communism is a form of gov't, it can be incorporated into any type of gov't)

The problem i see with current communist countries is that they have kept a money, in theory in a communist society you would have no need for money...

if you look at canada and other countries form of socialism it works quite nicely, in canada its practically next to nothing to go to college...in the USA its between 30-50k a year to go to a good college. in canada it is truely about the intelligence of the people because its not just who can afford it, who cant.

[666HiddenMaster666]

Dictator + Democracy
USA = Democracy = Falling apart because of loopholes
Dictator + Democracy = Control over the god damned Senate/HoR to force them to make all decisions

[tdct]

Every system has it's flaws. I'm ofc assuming that the people leading are smart enough to know that what they're doing should be done for the future of the country. But even if they aren't, the only difference would be that instead of powerful people being picked by the uneducated they'll be picked by the intelligent, hard working and resourceful people.



The problem with any form of communism is that it will only work in a perfect utopian world where there is no need for progress and where everyone is satisfied ... but that's kinda beside the point.

I was assuming they would be smart enough to be selfish

[Alen]

I was assuming they would be smart enough to be selfish

Intelligence has nothing to do with moral values