Science and Nature vs "Savior" Religions

[[MPGH]Ethereal]

But the very circumstance disproves the image of loving god you adore, what kind of ever loving deity would make an entire race of self-aware being suffer under such knowledge; knowing that you have to take a blind gamble and if you loose will suffer a punishment of such ghastly magnitude that is hard (if even possible) to comprehend.

A life of death, or a life wasted; which would you rather

I hear quite often this argument..that faith mentally enslaves believers.
That they don't do certain things out of fear of God's wrath.
To me, it's a bit silly. The majority of the stuff that is on the "don't do" list are things that tend to hold severe consequence if you do them..

That being said, I have nothing to lose by believing in God.
If I am right, (which I firmly believe I am)
Then I gain eternal life in a palace of peace.

Yes we are self aware..then we should be aware of the fact that aside from natural disaster, we have brought the turmoil of this earth upon ourselves.
God raised his prophets up to show us the way to be,
but we chose Diversity. I don't blame God for the way this world is. I blame us

[Para DICE]

The situation is awful if believers are right, then we have a chance of of eternal suffering.

If atheist are right believers have wasted a massive chunk of their entire life for naught.

I personally dread being on the loosing side so I will always stay with the most logical

But the very circumstance disproves the image of loving god you adore, what kind of ever loving deity would make an entire race of self-aware being suffer under such knowledge; knowing that you have to take a blind gamble and if you loose will suffer a punishment of such ghastly magnitude that is hard (if even possible) to comprehend.

A life of death, or a life wasted; which would you rather

Blind gamble? lol faith isn't telling a man "Choose a religion under 5seconds NOW!" without him knowing anything.

God gave us a brain = use it.
God gave us the ability to learn and solve puzzles = use it.

these 2 skills will show you the truth. nuff said.

Believing in a god isn't wasting your life, if your saying giving to the poor, making sure were equal, helping each other is waisting life? then i suggest you live in the US where the complete opposite occurs.

I hear quite often this argument..that faith mentally enslaves believers.
That they don't do certain things out of fear of God's wrath.
To me, it's a bit silly. The majority of the stuff that is on the "don't do" list are things that tend to hold severe consequence if you do them..

That being said, I have nothing to lose by believing in God.
If I am right, (which I firmly believe I am)
Then I gain eternal life in a palace of peace.

Yes we are self aware..then we should be aware of the fact that aside from natural disaster, we have brought the turmoil of this earth upon ourselves.
God raised his prophets up to show us the way to be,
but we chose Diversity. I don't blame God for the way this world is. I blame us

The world is satans playground bro.

The world isn't how it is because of "US" but because of the way of life we have forcome to.

Imagine a world of Gods rules, where giving to the poor is mandatory. helping and sharing is mandatory. Not cheating on a lover, or argueing back to parents is mandatory. The world is heaven itself.

But following man made laws, where were told "were here to make peace" but what these people do is cause mischief.


When it is said to them: "Do not make mischief on the Earth," they say: "Why? We only want to make peace." Beware, they are the ones that cause mischief but they do not realise. [Surah al-Baqarah (2):11-12]

When men come up with laws they think will make peace, the opposite happens, don't believe me? its fortold in the quran. don't believe the quran? look at the way life is now.

The Islamic world called "terrorists" are the ones being killed daily, like its a mandatory thing.

And the ones claiming to be "terrorised" are the ones killing the innocent people.

[Nismo]

Well, a perfect world would be awesome. But it's not.

Incredibly close though I think Atheists look at the world in a different way, we all have different ideas of where things come from... which is nice

And here is a quote from the press:

"When I was young, I used to pray every night for a new bike, but I realised the lord doesn't work that way. So I stole one and asked for forgiveness."

Another negative factor for religion

[Para DICE]

Well, a perfect world would be awesome. But it's not.

Incredibly close though I think Atheists look at the world in a different way, we all have different ideas of where things come from... which is nice

And here is a quote from the press:

"When I was young, I used to pray every night for a new bike, but I realised the lord doesn't work that way. So I stole one and asked for forgiveness."

Another negative factor for religion

no, negative in all religions but Islam, in Islam your judged on intentions as well as actions, his intention was to steal then ask for forgiveness, but he knew stealing is wrong, whether he asks for forgiveness or not, the sin sticks.

As he knew its wrong, and though he can play god by stealing then asking for forgiveness, Though the qoute made me laugh.

[Velocity]

alot of c+p going on here

[Para DICE]

alot of c+p going on here

c+p? what? ...ok off to gym. /

[Casavir]

copy+paste you newb

[Tony Stark`]

u cant really force people to be christians im just sayingthat usually turns people off to it

[kvll]

science can clone a human being. FUCK YEAH! GOD MODE!

[Tony Stark`]

science can clone a human being. FUCK YEAH! GOD MODE!

God made the human being to be cloned lawered

[Alen]

God made the human being to be cloned lawered

Well if God exists he's one helluva prick for making the things he supposedly made.

[lies']

Well if God exists he's one helluva prick for making the things he supposedly made.

It's the cause of people not god.

Where did God learn the English language? Religion has absolutely NO proof, apart from 'witnesses' who also have NO proof. Think I'm wrong? SHOW ME PROOF.

God doesn't need to learn. God created you. He knows everything about you. For god, time doesn't exist. For god everything is done already.

The theory of evolution claims that one species to another takes place from the primitive to the more complex-
progressively, and in stages. According to this claim, transitional forms must have existed during this
progress from one species to another. For example, there must have existed half-fish and half-amphibian creatures
that, despite still having fish characteristics, had also acquired some amphibious ones.

If any such transitional species had really existed, then their remains should be encountered in the fossil
record. But in over a century, there is still not the slightest trace of such intermediate forms.


For you, your belief. And for me, my belief.

[Alen]

It's the cause of people not god.

He supposedly made people and moral values.

[Paroxysm]

He supposedly made people and moral values.

"Is the pious loved by the gods because it is pious, or is it pious because it is loved by the gods?"

Simple English:
"Is what is morally good commanded by God because it is morally good, or is it morally good because it is commanded by God?"

Euthyphro's Dilemma. Logical bitch slap by Socrates.