Or maybe, we polluted the ocean, and God had nothing to do with anything?
Previously Armalite42
I never asked him to stop us from polluting, just to remove the excess carbon dioxide. Removing something that has already been done is not removing our free will.
If I drop a drink on the ground and someone cleans it up, they are not preventing me from dropping my drink on the ground. If they gave me a red drink (hydrocarbons) on a white carpet (sensitive atmosphere), they should have been a little more careful in their planning.
I'm not really prepared for such arguments. I am not a good discusser. I'm just sharing my opinions, and I gladly accept any feedback, constructive responses. But I am just bad as shit to discuss back. So, I apologize for my lack of arguments. I simply do not have enough knowledge in this entire religion-discussion, to discuss on a level which compares to yours. I have not done any research.
So, if you'll excuse me, I am not "backing" out of this discussion, I am just in lack of arguments, due to lack of research on my part.
I will gladly be monitoring this thread, as the discussion goes on.
I will although do more research, and strike back with an answer.
In other terms: You win this discussion.. For now...
- Simon
Last edited by Critted; 02-06-2011 at 01:44 PM.
^ Thanks Kyle, I love it! ^
Good question, and I couldn't really tell you.
To be honest I think it's a type of "you made your bed,now lie in it" kind of deal.
Besides life itself, the earth was one of God's greatest gifts to us.
We will learn nothing from our mistakes, if we know that God is just going to clean up our mess.
I hear ya dude..sometimes I wonder why, but I never really question it myself in an aggressive manner, because if that is what is willed, then there is nothing to be done.
It's like this..
If your child did something bad, would you reward him or punish him?
If you reward him, then he goes and does something equally bad again, or worse. I guess in a sense, God leaving us to our own devices is a punishment in itself.
You can't use that argument.
If your child killed someone, would you reward or punish him?
If you reward him, then he goes and does something equally bad again, or worse. But I suppose as long as he prays for his sins and believes that he will go to heaven, he will be fine, right? What happens to all the sin God forgives? Those are all bad things people did that they will still get rewarded for in the end, just because they prayed for it.. how is that fair?
"God leaving us to our own devices is a punishment in itself."
Leaving us to our own devices? What would happen if he 'left'?
Previously Armalite42
Satan can't be destroy because he isn't part of God's plan, he is the creator of evil and therefore can't be 'removed'. Satan is not God's friend, he is his long time enemy. There is a reason why there is always going to be a war between Good and Evil.
You just pretty much said that I just said, just in a different form.
Sounds like a typical fairytale.
So what would happen if God left then?
Previously Armalite42
I understand he's not in God's plan,
but to assume God can't kill Satan is a bit silly.
He created Satan, therefore he can destroy him.
So he has the ability to limit Satan to Earth,
and even the prison of hell, but not kill him?
Hey man believe what you want, just throwing my 2 cents in there.
And they lived happily ever after.
Previously Armalite42