Originally Posted by
Ethereal
Haha so you quote one verse from the Quran and now I'm supposed to be convinced.
Sorry man, I've been having these debates too long to let that fly.
The Quran and the Bible are full of contradiction.
Also statistics lie? No not the ones I posted... You can find reliable sources on every single one of the incidents in op.
If you think I'm just blowing smoke, I challenge you to do so. No it's not Christian or western propaganda..it's facts.
It's not like Fox news or Cnn is covering all of those stories and loading them up with bullshit.
They are way too abundant in occurrence.
Also, you can't use the argument.. "Oh so it says in the Quran, murder is wrong..so whoever suicide bombed that village weren't Muslims"
That is complete and utter trash logic. Different sects of Islam practice Jihad in different ways.
It doesn't make them any less Muslim. As long as the believe in Allah, and the prophet Mohammed, they are in fact MUSLIM.
Assuming anything different is wrong. Even an Imam will tell you this.
Since you quoted your peaceful "murder is wrong" verse
Let me show you why this book contradicts itself, and clearly proves it's intolerant ideology.
47:4-”Therefore, when you meet the unbelievers smite their necks, then, when you have killed many of them, tie the bonds…. As for those who are killed in the Way of Allah, he will not let their works to go astray.”
More commands to violence and praise for violent martyrs.
uideth not a people unjust.”
2:191-”Kill them (unbelievers) wherever you find them. Drive them out of the places from which they drove you, for persecution is worse than slaughter…. Such is the reward of those who reject faith.”
9:29-”Fight those who neither believe in Allah nor the last day, who do not forbid what Allah and his messenger have forbidden, and do not embrace the religion of the truth, being among those who have been given the book (Bible and the Torah), until they pay tribute out of hand and have been humiliated (or feel themselves subdued).”
4:95-”Those of the believers who sit still…are not on an equality with those who strive in the way of Allah with their wealth and lives. Allah hath conferred on those who strive with their wealth and lives a rank above te sedentary. Unto each Allah hath promised good, but He hath bestowed on those who strive a great reward above the sedentary.”
Muslims who fight in jihad are better than those who don’t.