(Illuminati)

[Registration]

I believe it's a troll, what are your views?

[Empire]

i believe its got nothing to do with religion......

[ARHQA$Y$YW4AYG4y]

You should be exterminated for even thinking about that bullshit...

[[MPGH]Ethereal]

Sigh...
For the 50th fucking time already.
If you haven't researched this group, then you're in no position to say if they were real or fake.
I'm telling you they were a very real orginization during the late 1700's to 1800's..after that it's hard to tell if they disbanded or not.
If you still think it's a joke look in the Library of Congress archives, there you will find President Washington addressing the matter of the Illuminati infiltrating Masonic temples on U.S. soil. That isn't a troll it's a fact and it's in writing for anyone to read.

[Empire]

were*

No ones doubting that they WERE a true organization. That they still exist has not been proved.

[[MPGH]Ethereal]

were*

No ones doubting that they WERE a true organization. That they still exist has not been proved.

Actually plenty of people on this site HAVE said they're fake..
and the op was pretty vague.

[Empire]

Oh really? I don't see the point in how its not proven. Its like saying any number of old organizations didn't exist.

[Registration]

Yes, I think you're misreading this slightly. It IS about the Illuminati (conspiracy theory sense), and the "selling their soul" is more metaphorical than real.
What they fail to mention (conveniently) when claiming that it causes depression (in the Eminem video) etc. is that we know that people are prone to depression if:
1) they are highly artistic
2) they have demands on them from all directions
3) they are under pressure from many directions
etc.
In other words they're looking at something that probably arises from himself and blaming it on a fictional, external organisation.

The Michael Jackson video: once again we're back to claims of a nearly omnipotent organisation that can kill off public figures like Jackson with virtual impunity (and Princess Diana too? I didn't watch the entire thing, it made me laugh too much) yet, surprise, some nameless nerd on the internet manages to expose them weekly.

Ask yourself one question: if you were in charge of a world-spanning secret society that controlled pop stars, trillions of dollars, national economies, stopped and started wars at whim, "disposed of" inconvenient people in the public eye etc. what would you do to to some nameless geek who tries to expose you on YouTube?

Me? I'd make sure he disappeared, and his files... It's easier than you think. But no... oopsy! Oh noes we've been outed again.

@emipre

[Empire]

Ok being highly "artistic" has nothing to do with depression.

What selling their soul? What are you talking about?
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How about you ask yourself one question:

If you were in charge of a world-spanning secret society: Why in gods name would you CARE about pop-stars.

They aren't important. They do nothing politically, gain insignificant amounts of money, and usually ruin their careers one way or another.
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Who cares about Jackson? I mean there are a billion other musicians who are more popular lulz. How about ozzy? he an agent for the illuminati? LULZ>

[Ferris Bueller]

I first heard about the Illuminati on Deus Ex the conspiracy.

[Alen]

I first heard about the Illuminati on Deus Ex the conspiracy.

That's awesome, how does it relate to the direction this thread took?

[ARSENALMAN]

Its true rihanna jay z beyonce are some of the people in it. Most of eminems songs are about illuminati.

[RJ]

Its true rihanna jay z beyonce are some of the people in it. Most of eminems songs are about illuminati.

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/fp

[Jilly]

Views.. Views. Views.
When will people learn.
..(Rhetorical Statement)

[Snake]

Why would you care if anyone says so if you're not going to expand your knowledge.