I understand it is frustrating not getting cred for the work you do, but it does make it alot easier for us that are trying to learn c+ or ++ ... And i don't think learning to c++ just to make a hack is a bad thing it is something that keeps people motivated enough to continue to learn to code, any full source of a hack would be greatly appreciated, and helps alot. Thanks to all that have posted source so far! if anyone wants to hook me up with a older source that would be cool as well you don't have to make it public a PM is cool too