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    Experiementing - Sport to lethal weapon?

    Trying to load up my airsoft guns and paintball guns with metal ammunition, and then ramping up the FPS. Would it be able to pierce anything?

    The airsoft guns I have go at 200 per second and the paintball guns I have can be adjusted, so imma REALLY ramp that up for the best results I guess. Also gotta figure out how the weight of the ammunition would affect it. Who's good at physics?

    I have tons of stuff to test on in my basement. Let's get shooting?
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    Who you trying to kill :|
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    Not good at physics, sure, the hit will be "harder" if you have metal bullets (they have existed for quite some time now)
    But the punch isn't gonna get better if your soft- doesn't fire harder.

    I'd call up air-resistance as well, a plastic bullet are likely to fly faster I think than a metal one, but the metal one will catch "weight"

    If that made any sense, feel free to correct me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calum98 View Post
    Who you trying to kill :|
    No one yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy View Post
    Not good at physics, sure, the hit will be "harder" if you have metal bullets (they have existed for quite some time now)
    But the punch isn't gonna get better if your soft- doesn't fire harder.

    I'd call up air-resistance as well, a plastic bullet are likely to fly faster I think than a metal one, but the metal one will catch "weight"

    If that made any sense, feel free to correct me.
    True that, can't have ammunition with points though, they're metal balls. Would making them hollow affect it? It would change the weight but I'm afraid of what it will do to the impact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vice-Versa View Post


    No one yet.



    True that, can't have ammunition with points though, they're metal balls. Would making them hollow affect it? It would change the weight but I'm afraid of what it will do to the impact.
    It would make it easier to sling but less air-resistant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy View Post


    It would make it easier to sling but less air-resistant.
    Easier to sling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vice-Versa View Post


    Easier to sling?
    Like this. Logical to me, not factual - might be, unsure.
    If something weighs, it takes more power to shoot/sling/throw, yes?
    But the less it weighs, the easier it is to -|- ^ but the chance of it getting "caught" in air is more likely to happen.

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    A bullet has a casing, gun powder, and a primer
    The bullet is at the tip and outside of the casing
    In the casing is gun powder
    The primer closes the hole in which the gun powder is put in
    The hammer from the firearm hits the primer and sets it off, which then ignites the gun powder
    Burning the gun powder will release a ton of gas, and since it's enclosed in a tiny space, it builds up an extremely high amount of pressure in milliseconds
    That is what "shoots" the bullet
    Furthermore, guns' barrels have circular carvings inside, causing the bullet to rotate as it comes out, this is to increase its accuracy (too lazy to explain the physics)

    So, what you need to do:
    Super high pressure from cold gas otherwise you'll melt your plastic guns
    Circular carving so you'll be able to shoot straight

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666HiddenMaster666 View Post
    A bullet has a casing, gun powder, and a primer
    The bullet is at the tip and outside of the casing
    In the casing is gun powder
    The primer closes the hole in which the gun powder is put in
    The hammer from the firearm hits the primer and sets it off, which then ignites the gun powder
    Burning the gun powder will release a ton of gas, and since it's enclosed in a tiny space, it builds up an extremely high amount of pressure in milliseconds
    That is what "shoots" the bullet
    Furthermore, guns' barrels have circular carvings inside, causing the bullet to rotate as it comes out, this is to increase its accuracy (too lazy to explain the physics)

    So, what you need to do:
    Super high pressure from cold gas otherwise you'll melt your plastic guns
    Circular carving so you'll be able to shoot straight

    @Vice-Versa
    The gun has a 12 inch barrel with a shroud on it if that means anything. I'm using a CO2 tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vice-Versa View Post
    The gun has a 12 inch barrel with a shroud on it if that means anything. I'm using a CO2 tank.
    Uh, no, and CO2 is fine, just needs way more pressure unless you're shooting small metal
    Here's what the inside of the barrel looks like
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    Quote Originally Posted by 666HiddenMaster666 View Post


    Uh, no, and CO2 is fine, just needs way more pressure unless you're shooting small metal
    Here's what the inside of the barrel looks like
    Nope, it doesn't have circular carving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vice-Versa View Post
    Nope, it doesn't have circular carving.
    Going to be inaccurate then, and if you shoot metal balls it'll be the same as using a musket
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    Quote Originally Posted by 666HiddenMaster666 View Post


    Going to be inaccurate then, and if you shoot metal balls it'll be the same as using a musket
    That's what I thought, that it would be like a rapid-firing musket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy View Post
    Not good at physics, sure, the hit will be "harder" if you have metal bullets (they have existed for quite some time now)
    But the punch isn't gonna get better if your soft- doesn't fire harder.

    I'd call up air-resistance as well, a plastic bullet are likely to fly faster I think than a metal one, but the metal one will catch "weight"

    If that made any sense, feel free to correct me.
    - Helium footbal = Short distance
    - Oxygen football = Longer distance.
    Lighter objects don't always help it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contribution View Post


    - Helium footbal = Short distance
    - Oxygen football = Longer distance.
    Lighter objects don't always help it out.
    See, you didn't quite fully understand what I mean. I get your point and where it went wrong.
    As I said, less weight = less resistance to air = shorter distance.

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