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    Western Muslims.



    So whats the deal there guys?

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    Its simple hypocritical immigrants.


    Happens all the fucking time, freedom of speech is a double edged sword in this case.
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    Immigrants moving to a country then protesting it is just utter ignorance.


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    The usual hypocrisy.
    They are granted independence and freedom upon immigrating to the West, then upon arrival they speak out against the very liberties that allow them to speak in the first place.

    You were seeking strength, justice, splendour.
    You were seeking love.
    Here is the pit, here is your pit.
    Its name is Silence..


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    They run away from there countries and than come 2 try to shove down on others the same idealogies that made them leave there places/countries in the first place.
    It's called stupidity.
    Last edited by sh3b; 06-04-2013 at 01:43 AM.

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    Shitty governments and leaders maybe?
    And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSpot View Post
    Shitty governments and leaders maybe?
    ​That makes no logical sense in this context.
    You were seeking strength, justice, splendour.
    You were seeking love.
    Here is the pit, here is your pit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post

    ​That makes no logical sense in this context.
    so read it over and over till u get it.
    And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSpot View Post
    Shitty governments and leaders maybe?
    I don't think you understand what hypocrisy means....


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    Its plain bullshit. You go to a country, you respect their laws and culture.


    They want to be accepted in the western, but they can't accept jews in their community anymore?
    please, gtfo



    plus, if they are so religious, why don't they stay and fight till the death defending the islam and getting a spot in the eternal heaven?


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    I'll never understand the logic around the anti-jew stuff.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    I'll never understand the logic around the anti-jew stuff.
    It literally says in the quran that you should leave the jews alone, and actually treat them like true brothers. Even the jews lived in true peace with the muslims back in Mohammeds time.
    People are just retarded, especially if you are taught to just accept what you are being told.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post


    It literally says in the quran that you should leave the jews alone, and actually treat them like true brothers. Even the jews lived in true peace with the muslims back in Mohammeds time.
    People are just retarded, especially if you are taught to just accept what you are being told.
    Oh really?

    5:051-O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

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    My friend moved to the west for those exact ways. :I

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post


    Oh really?

    5:051-O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
    Well yeah, but its at the point where it doesn't make any real sense.

    Like lets hate the jews because they are.......jewish?

    Is it just a minority thing to people? I guess they kind of are the biggest "minority" of sorts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post


    Oh really?

    5:051-O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
    Those are jihad quotes. You kill anyone but muslims if they are your enemy.
    Even the prophet himself said that jews and christians were more then welcome to be with them.

    After his migration (hijra) to Medina from his home-town of Mecca, he established an agreement known as the Constitution of Medina between the major Medinan factions, including the Jewish tribes of Banu Qaynuqa, Banu Nadir, and Banu Qurayza that secured equal rights for both Jews and Muslims as long as Jews remained politically supportive.[1] Muhammad later fought battles with these tribes on the basis of violations of the constitution.
    Note that the jews violated the constitution?


    In the course of Muhammad's proselytizing in Mecca, he viewed Christians and Jews, both of whom he referred to as "People of the Book", as natural allies, sharing the core principles of his teachings, and anticipated their acceptance and support. Muslims, like Jews, were at that time praying towards Jerusalem.[2] During the height of Muslim persecution in Mecca, Muhammad was offered the position of arbitrator in the highly diverse Medina, which had a large Jewish community.
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