AS-Molaar (06-12-2013)
If you would read an islamic book, you would notice how in some paragraphs it says that one islamic school agreed to the meaning whilst an other didn't. Even the prophet said that you have to interpretate it different ways to get the true meaning.
Just imaginate a hardcore muslim making a translation from a bible to arabic. Do you really think he would keep it clean and shet?
Exactly
They would most likely manipulate it to fit with their story. If I say the following:
And they show the people only a part of it;And in combat, when you are threatened, kill your enemyThen this could be taken as a true quote, but it would be manipulated.kill your enemy
Once again, if you had been a muslim since birth you would know what I'm trying to say
but you would eventually realize that islam is a big pile of bullcrap either way and end up discussing that on mpgh, hehe.
AS-Molaar (06-12-2013)
Islam does not make muslims not peaceful , but Muslims make Islam not peaceful.
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Okay , sorry!
Look , If I'm christian or w/e , and I said something not peaceful does this explains that Christianity is not peaceful ?
Why USA usually talking about Mid East only? ofc because of Israel , Why USA doesn't talk about Somalia?Ofc because there's nothing good to Israel in or USA in this.
Why USA occupied Iraq ? because of excuses about Saddam and the reality was they came for oil after they killed saddam.
Why USA planned for 11 September Attack? Because of making the Islamic / Arabic World terrorist a whole plane cannot destroy and crash a whole tower and many explosions were heard by the near workers and the CIA was planning for it.
Why USA didn't open Syria ? No much oil.
Why USA still talking about Egypt ? Want to finish Egypt.
Why USA is the most country talking about Mid East only and brainwashing ppl in their media to make arab terrorists ? because they want Israel only!
Why the media brain washed them? because Jews are controlling the media.
Why they talk much about freedom while they don't have a freedom ? to make their ppl proud of them (still brain-washed)....
What you are talking about is sensationalism and misquoting.
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Translations do not get in the way of this. You can read in context and in the end it comes down to the exact same scenario every time.
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Unfortunately it has nothing to do with the topic.
:/ Stupid conspiracy theorist.
Last edited by Ethereal; 06-12-2013 at 09:51 PM.
Any religion is a fucking cancer to society.
There are two types of tragedies in life. One is not getting what you want, the other is getting it.
If you wake up at a different time in a different place, could you wake up as a different person?
You were seeking strength, justice, splendour.
You were seeking love.
Here is the pit, here is your pit.
Its name is Silence..
Thats exactly what I am trying to say. I have left islam just for that reason. They have no way to make things up but to make you interpretate things differently
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That is once again a reason why I left the islam.
I don't know how many times I should say this, but the islamic book isn't even a primary source. It is written by people who have heard it from people who have learned it. rediculous
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1. Read the whole part from verse 60 to 66 to get the picture @ quran.com/2/60-66
2. I don't know how to find the Hadith in Arabic so i explain it.
3. "And those who believe will say, "Are these the ones who swore by Allah their strongest oaths that indeed they were with you?" Their deeds have become worthless, and they have become losers." 5:53
4. "Say, "O People of the Scripture, do you resent us except [for the fact] that we have believed in Allah and what was revealed to us and what was revealed before and because most of you are defiantly disobedient?" 5:59
5. "You will find others who wish to obtain security from you and [to] obtain security from their people. Every time they are returned to [the influence of] disbelief, they fall back into it. So if they do not withdraw from you or offer you peace or restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you overtake them. And those - We have made for you against them a clear authorization." 4:91
copy the whole verses or gtfo please.[COLOR="Silver"]
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ikr?!! thats why probably people think islam is evil, cuz they miss understood
Last edited by RedSpot; 06-13-2013 at 08:13 AM.
And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged.
Symmetrical (06-13-2013)
Why are you twisting my words?
I ment to say that if a strict religious muslim would have to translate a bible to his fellow muslims, would he truely make the bible look good?
No. Exactly. Stop ignoring the truth and start copieng the whole verses already, the guy above me proved my point.
Frought (06-14-2013)
Uh.......you went off-topic towards more anti-america bullshit.
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While I am all for that, in Islam's case it has shown to not be a good thing.
So many muslims support so many bad leaders, terrorist, and just blatantly evil people, because they are muslim.
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And while brotherhood might be great, it only causes pain to the non-muslims when its too strong. Which in turn hurts the muslims, its a vicious circle.