Shadows End (06-17-2014)
NOWAY Shiite is NOT Muslims at all let me compere
Muslims suni (real Muslims)---> we follow our prophet Mohamed (peace and bless upon him) and worship one god
Shiite ---> they think Ali is the is prophet so they follow him.. not our prophet Mohamed (peace and bless upon him) so, they worship alot different religion... they even insult suni Muslims and some old Muslims characters too and they Fabrication some of the Qurain too and don't even believe in prophet Mohamed (peace and bless upon him) ,,,, THEY ARE NOT MUSLIMS AT ALL
and they do aloot of crazzy stuff... LOL they build a big black stone in stadium and say HERE IS THE RIGHT KABA and the one in Maka is not true.... excuse me what a hell Muslims is that ... what i mean is Shiite is not Muslims and they wont ever be Muslims as long they worship another book and prophet they are just like other religions but with no book and real god messengers {{ for example (Gospel) Jesus and (Altora) David (peace and bless upon them ) }}
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i saw a post from someone i don't remember his name but he mean " Islam destroy the World "
watch this..
watch?v=VpRb12gEkxM
what is the hell isreal doing in middle of Arab countries ? playing gulf in the dessert ?!. Man its like a Disease nothing good ever happen as long this Disease is middle east.. you can see that by your own eyes now.
OMG you know who build Hamas ? and AlQaada ?? is american CIA to fight the Russian in Afghanistan and now call them terrorist?? Huh... search for that by your self just type in google and thats so funny Russian runaway and US and nato forces come.. as i told you before theys ppl have not seen a pace for there entire lifes.
ThankYouForReading.
Shadows End (06-17-2014)
Why did you try and put the quote on me? I didn't say that lol.
Maybe you should read this to and tell me what you think:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/No_True_Scotsman
According to Islam you are not Muslim just because you call yourself Muslim, it also depends on your actions. Some things such as purposefully killing innocent people takes you out of the fold of Islam. They can do whatever they want in the name of Islam but doesn't mean they are Muslim or that is what Islam teaches.
And of the people are some who say, "We believe in Allah and the Last Day," but they are not believers. -2:8
Do the people think that they will be left to say, "We believe" and they will not be tried? -29:2
But We have certainly tried those before them, and Allah will surely make evident those who are truthful, and He will surely make evident the liars. -29:3
I present to you a Salafi. Salafis are the extremists who want to convert people by force, and want people to live how Muslims lived in the 7th century. They know very little about Islam and are easily brainwashed into extremism. They want Muslims and non-Muslims who don't agree with them, dead. Salafism was started by a man from Saudi Arabia in the 19th century. The first people to oppose it were the man's father and brother. Salafis create conflict between Sunnis and Shias. It is all funded by the Arab billionaires.
Shias do not think Ali is a prophet that is why they call him an Imam. Shias believe in the same Quran as Sunnis. Shias believe in prophet Muhammad pbuh. Do you even know how big of sin it is to call Muslims, non Muslims?
Science is learning about the creation, Islam is learning about the creator.
Alif, Lam, Meem. - 2:1 Quran
This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah(God) - 2:2 Quran
Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them, - 2:3 Quran
And who believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you, and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith]. - 2:4 Quran
Those are upon [right] guidance from their Lord, and it is those who are the successful. - 2:5 Quran
Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. - 2:6 Quran
Science is learning about the creation, Islam is learning about the creator.
Alif, Lam, Meem. - 2:1 Quran
This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah(God) - 2:2 Quran
Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them, - 2:3 Quran
And who believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you, and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith]. - 2:4 Quran
Those are upon [right] guidance from their Lord, and it is those who are the successful. - 2:5 Quran
Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. - 2:6 Quran
Science is learning about the creation, Islam is learning about the creator.
Alif, Lam, Meem. - 2:1 Quran
This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah(God) - 2:2 Quran
Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them, - 2:3 Quran
And who believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you, and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith]. - 2:4 Quran
Those are upon [right] guidance from their Lord, and it is those who are the successful. - 2:5 Quran
Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. - 2:6 Quran
Lol Empire you've been debating for so long in this section. This is Obama btw.
That should not be.
If an atheïst loses it and starts shooting everyone around him, they'll call him a madman where religious views do not matter.
Like, I'm a muslim right, I'm completely nuts and go hack a machete into a random woman, I've been educated with the Islam, so I'll go and scream Allahu Akbar all day long, not knowing I was doing one of the most forbidden things. In the first instance, it will look like I'm doing it for the Islam, but in honest reality, I'm just a retard who has lost it.
I understand your point, but it shouldn't be like that.
sir,
I dont wanna make this conversation about Muslims and Shiites but lemme give you fast simple ...
yes i know how big of sin it is to call Muslims, non Muslims..but there is already fatwa says that Shiites is not Muslims i wont post links just search google
(Fatwa= when biggest Muslims Scholars,expert and with real big knowlg in Islam gather to decide something by collecting evidence from Holy Quran and prophet life)
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now let me give you simple things to prove it.
-Shiites insult prophet Mohamed's (peace and bless upon him) Wife khadija....
-Shiites Cursed alshaba like Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman and Muawiyah God bless them
(alshaba= our prophet Mohamed (peace and bless upon him) friends, and lived with him)
-Shiites lower there head(sjod) to there tombs....and Muslims ONLY lower there heads to God.
-Shiites says Ali got miracle to bring deaths to live back again... while in our Holy Quran and Islam the only one with this miracle is Essa(Jesus ) (peace and bless upon him)
-Shiites says The Holy Quran is not complete and still some of it is missing and get alot of mistakes.
- this guys build black stone in Stadium and call it kaba... i wont post the Imag here.. google it
after this call them Muslims ? NOWAY!
-also Muslims Don't injure them selves (google image Shiites and u will know what i mean) injure our bodes is Sin you know that ?
and what said here is like nothing...if you interested to know more about shiites and Islam pm i'll give you links.
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sorry for changing the subject guys..just some information to know some the difference between Muslims and Shiites as i told you before Shiites is like other religions but with some similar prays and acts in prays.. still calls Mohamed (peace and bless upon him) is there prophet but what happen with him is mistake.
btw everything i said is supported with reference and ayat from Holy Quran but i dont like post ayat here sure w/o disrespect
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sorry sir, there is no irony at all.
No I haven't. Which Muslim have I called a non-Muslim?
Salam Aleykum bro,
All those things are not true. Every group have some extremists, so people who hate Shias use what some extremists do to make people believe all Shias believe that. They are the same religion just different schools of thought. All Sunni schools of thought accept the Shia school of thought, the Jafari school of thought.
All of those things you have been told about Shias are lies made by Salafis. Salafis are not Sunnis and they want to bring conflict between Muslims. If you want to know the truth about any of what Shias believe then use this website: https://www.al-islam.org/
Science is learning about the creation, Islam is learning about the creator.
Alif, Lam, Meem. - 2:1 Quran
This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah(God) - 2:2 Quran
Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them, - 2:3 Quran
And who believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you, and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith]. - 2:4 Quran
Those are upon [right] guidance from their Lord, and it is those who are the successful. - 2:5 Quran
Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. - 2:6 Quran