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    Question Some questions about game hacking & CE

    Hello !
    I have some questions about game hacking, here in AVA, and Cheat Engine...

    1) I found some value, but if I try to change it (for exemple, bullet), that don't work... Is it a protection related with the server ?

    2) Even if that don't work, when I try to find out what acess to this adress, the game crash because of the debuger that CE attach to the process...
    So how to do it?

    3) I don't see how we can make a Superweapon hack since the values never change ?

    4) Why games don't use a server verification to make sure that the client isn't hacked ?

    I'm coding in VB.NET/ a bit C++...
    Sorry if i don't write it well enougth, but Im not english ^^

    Thanks for answeres...
    Last edited by amical; 04-26-2014 at 11:21 AM.

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    1) You probably found the wrong address.
    2) In CE go to debugger options and change the debugger to VEH method.
    3) You can use the Pointer Scan of CE with a starting value.
    4) They simply forget, or that it's a hassle to add a check as that will force the server to do more work and slow it.

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    Mmm I see, thanks for the rapid answere...
    I will check a tutorial on the pointer scan...

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    I don't see how for the superweapon, and same for the godmode, i try to freeze health but that dont work ^^
    If you have anythings that can help me to understand ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by RageSmirk View Post
    1) You probably found the wrong address.
    2) In CE go to debugger options and change the debugger to VEH method.
    3) You can use the Pointer Scan of CE with a starting value.
    4) They simply forget, or that it's a hassle to add a check as that will force the server to do more work and slow it.
    Impossible. It can't get slower than it usually is.
    #dem_potato_servers

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    Quote Originally Posted by amical View Post
    Hello !
    I have some questions about game hacking, here in AVA, and Cheat Engine...

    1) I found some value, but if I try to change it (for exemple, bullet), that don't work... Is it a protection related with the server ?

    2) Even if that don't work, when I try to find out what acess to this adress, the game crash because of the debuger that CE attach to the process...
    So how to do it?

    3) I don't see how we can make a Superweapon hack since the values never change ?

    4) Why games don't use a server verification to make sure that the client isn't hacked ?

    I'm coding in VB.NET/ a bit C++...
    Sorry if i don't write it well enougth, but Im not english ^^

    Thanks for answeres...
    Could you pm me with the value you found?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amical View Post
    I don't see how for the superweapon, and same for the godmode, i try to freeze health but that dont work ^^
    If you have anythings that can help me to understand ^^
    You can't make GodMode with CE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amical View Post
    Hello !
    I have some questions about game hacking, here in AVA, and Cheat Engine...

    2) Even if that don't work, when I try to find out what acess to this adress, the game crash because of the debuger that CE attach to the process...
    So how to do it?

    3) I don't see how we can make a Superweapon hack since the values never change ?

    4) Why games don't use a server verification to make sure that the client isn't hacked ?

    I'm coding in VB.NET/ a bit C++...
    Sorry if i don't write it well enougth, but Im not english ^^

    Thanks for answeres...
    To answer your 2nd question, do what @RageSmirk said, edit the debugger options and change it to VEH method.

    To answer your 3rd question, the best way is to find the Ammo Pointer(Make a couple of pointer scans and try to find a valid address). After you have a good ammo pointer, do Dissect Data/Structures, in the Memory Viewer menu.
    Ammo and Super-weapons are very close in memory, so if you find the Ammo Pointer you can get the Super-Weapons pointer easily, and others.


    Take a look at this post, it'll help you a lot (Thanks @Riddick for the link )

    https://guidedhacking.com/showthread....l-difficulties

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    Quote Originally Posted by R3DDOT View Post
    Impossible. It can't get slower than it usually is.
    #dem_potato_servers
    I laughed so hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by RageSmirk View Post


    You can't make GodMode with CE.
    I successfully did.
    If the enemy doesn't kill you too quickly, you regain all the HP that was taken away from you. If I could do armor now, that'd be great.

    Quote Originally Posted by R3DDOT View Post
    To answer your 2nd question, do what @RageSmirk said, edit the debugger options and change it to VEH method.

    To answer your 3rd question, the best way is to find the Ammo Pointer(Make a couple of pointer scans and try to find a valid address). After you have a good ammo pointer, do Dissect Data/Structures, in the Memory Viewer menu.
    Ammo and Super-weapons are very close in memory, so if you find the Ammo Pointer you can get the Super-Weapons pointer easily, and others.


    Take a look at this post, it'll help you a lot (Thanks @Riddick for the link )

    https://guidedhacking.com/showthread....l-difficulties
    If you honestly think they understand what you mean, LOL. Just judging by their posts, you can get a sense of how little they know and can comprehend.




     
     
    Quote Originally Posted by ccman32 View Post
    Stop begging, it's just annoying.



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    Quote Originally Posted by oXParadoxXo View Post


    I successfully did.
    If the enemy doesn't kill you too quickly, you regain all the HP that was taken away from you. If I could do armor now, that'd be great.
    wuut.. Cool job @oXParadoxXo .

    Quote Originally Posted by oXParadoxXo View Post

    If you honestly think they understand what you mean, LOL. Just judging by their posts, you can get a sense of how little they know and can comprehend.
    :/ it's true. Anyway, I guess someone should understand what I meant, otherwise they should GOOGLE IT.

    I never search for more than 1 pointer (if they related to one anouther, if they don't then i gotta find a new pointer obv ).
    Like, I search for a valid ammo pointer, then I just add bytes to the last offset(I add as many bytes as I need, by looking in the offset in Dissect Data/Structures), since you don't read the last offset of a pointer, you can do that, and it's probably the best way to do this.

    Btw, can I add you on skype? =p
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    Quote Originally Posted by R3DDOT View Post

    Btw, can I add you on skype? =p
    I just added you. Why?
    I don't like posting my Skype because people like to spam me with begging and questions.
    Last edited by oXParadoxXo; 04-27-2014 at 11:28 AM.




     
     
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    Stop begging, it's just annoying.



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    Quote Originally Posted by oXParadoxXo View Post
    I just added you. Why?
    I don't like posting my Skype because people like to spam me with begging and questions.
    I kept missing you on Skype, but you've got the bypass now

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    Quote Originally Posted by oXParadoxXo View Post


    I just added you. Why?
    I don't like posting my Skype because people like to spam me with begging and questions.
    LOL, I don't beg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riddick View Post
    I kept missing you on Skype, but you've got the bypass now
    Sounds good. Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by R3DDOT View Post
    LOL, I don't beg.
    I'm obviously not worried about you begging, but other people will see it and start begging. I already added you, though.




     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by oXParadoxXo View Post

    I laughed so hard.



    I successfully did.
    If the enemy doesn't kill you too quickly, you regain all the HP that was taken away from you. If I could do armor now, that'd be great.



    If you honestly think they understand what you mean, LOL. Just judging by their posts, you can get a sense of how little they know and can comprehend.
    LOOOOOOOOL, Mr.Paradix. I feel like some one is just trying to lie here.

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