BAN appeal for user: ntsx123 and counter scam report for Copperhorse

[ntsx1234]

Hi guys i have been banned from mpgh for apparently scamming because i issued a chargeback.

I was given 24 hours notice and i failed to see this because i dont check my notifications.

Actually i wrote up a long page of details to explain what happened and then i click post and somehow i wasnt even logged in. Everything i wrote was gone and it wouldnt restore all the things i wrote. So i will basically summarize what happened and what i wrote.

Basically i issued a chargeback because the items that i purchased was stolen and hacked. I bought at Ak-serpent and a orion UPS stat trak WW.
total for 130 USD.
I had the items for about 2 weeks and then i sold them to a fellow for cash. Now the guy has contacted me for a refund, saying that the item was missing and loss. I advised him to check his inventory history and nothing was there. I am trying my best to issue this guy a refund for now.

i have some evidence he hacks and steals items but it is not directly involved with me. I can try to get some more information when i can.

Anyway copperhorse's steam account/trading/friends account i bought the skins from is
(basically if u check the links in steam rep he has 3 linked accounts) All are banned.

Main account used to trade for cash -->
steamcommunity-com/id/longlivela/
Steam rep: steamrep-com/profiles/76561198148314170

Main account used to hack/phish/scam --->
steamcommunity-com/id/wedagangotv/
steam rep:steamrep-com/profiles/76561198037731599

Evidence: forums.steamrep-com/threads/report-76561198037731599-csgo-counter-strike-global-offensive-items.82852/
steamcommunity-com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=339673493
puu.sh/cHQcl/c5a511ece0[/url]-png

Refer to past names and see the above pictures and the person's name involved in the trade. All of them are there

imgur-com/MFUUrLn

3rd account used to scam --->steamrep-com/profiles/76561198153660703
evidence: forums.steamrep-com/threads/report-76561198025630898-none-no-items.82925/


P.S Replace "-" with a . to see links!
This is all i can give for now.

[[MPGH]Liz]

Scam thread.

Attending Middlemen: @andiasliwa @Shane

Ban issued by @Symmetrical


One of them should be by soon to check your side of the story and compare evidence.

[andiasliwa]

Hello , unless we have figured out who is guilty you had no rights to do a charge-back. Its scam. But anyways , do you got any proof of that you are saying ? Because no matter that the steam account's that has rep't for Copperhorse is banned , he has sold many skins around here and he got vouches from people. But if you could contact the 3rd person (who you sold the stuff to) and ask him to contact steam support and ask them why his csgo skins were removed, the reason ? It would be very helpful. I would also need a screenshot of that you actually send that person the skins.
Could you also explain from where you get the skins @Copperhorse because if you are getting in an illegal manner (scamming,phishing,etc) you are NOT allowed to sell them around here.

[Copperhorse]

Hello , unless we have figured out who is guilty you had no rights to do a charge-back. Its scam. But anyways , do you got any proof of that you are saying ? Because no matter that the steam account's that has rep't for Copperhorse is banned , he has sold many skins around here and he got vouches from people. But if you could contact the 3rd person (who you sold the stuff to) and ask him to contact steam support and ask them why his csgo skins were removed, the reason ? It would be very helpful. I would also need a screenshot of that you actually send that person the skins.
Could you also explain from where you get the skins @Copperhorse because if you are getting in an illegal manner (scamming,phishing,etc) you are NOT allowed to sell them around here.

I buy them from people for cheap and sell them for more, simple business.

[andiasliwa]

I buy them from people for cheap and sell them for more, simple business.

Yeah sounds very simple to me. From who did you purchase the USP Onion and AK that you sold to ntsx123 ? I would like to see the converstaion between you and the person you bought the skins from.
Make sure to have followings in your screenshots:

• Conversation between YOU and "the person" you buy the skins from. I would like to see a few of your purchases , not only one if possible.

• Payment, also you sending "the person" the money (Paypal history , Paysafecard pin etc.)

It will be at your advantage if you show what I ask for. (Re-installed pc, lost all data etc is old-fashioned don't try it.)

[Copperhorse]

Yeah sounds very simple to me. From who did you purchase the USP Onion and AK that you sold to ntsx123 ? I would like to see the converstaion between you and the person you bought the skins from.
Make sure to have followings in your screenshots:

• Conversation between YOU and "the person" you buy the skins from. I would like to see a few of your purchases , not only one if possible.

• Payment, also you sending "the person" the money (Paypal history , Paysafecard pin etc.)

It will be at your advantage if you show what I ask for. (Re-installed pc, lost all data etc is old-fashioned don't try it.)

There is no conversation between me and my person, we use teamspeak and steam (which has no history).

Here are some payments I sent him -

[ntsx1234]

Alright , i would need you to contact the 3rd person (the one you sold the stuff to) and ask him to contact steam support and ask them why his csgo skins were removed, the reason ? It would be very helpful.
Are you able to do that ?

yes he sent a steam ticket already

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[andiasliwa]

There is no conversation between me and my person, we use teamspeak and steam (which has no history).

Here are some payments I sent him -

There is no evidence that these transactions are made for csgo skins. This could be just something else you bought.
However , teamspeak got convo history > C:\Program Files\TeamSpeak 3 Client\config\chats or
C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Roaming\TS3client\ch ats
Can you provide with a sceenshot that you received the skins you paid for (11th January & 7th January)

yes he sent a steam ticket already

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How is it going , any repons yet ?

[andiasliwa]

@ @ntsx1234 I asked you also do a couple of things that you see above , are you working on it? how's it going?

[ntsx1234]

sorry was extremely busy with work

these are trade proofs with my buyer and copperhorse
imgur-com/3RVpjM8&ubMSToz#0

imgur-com/3RVpjM8&ubMSToz#1

[andiasliwa]

sorry was extremely busy with work

these are trade proofs with my buyer and copperhorse
imgur-com/3RVpjM8&ubMSToz#0

imgur-com/3RVpjM8&ubMSToz#1

Alright , i would need you to contact the 3rd person (the one you sold the stuff to) and ask him to contact steam support and ask them why his csgo skins were removed, the reason ? It would be very helpful.
Are you able to do that ?

[andiasliwa]

@ @ntsx1234 anything new ?

[ntsx1234]

nothing is new, but i got my money back and gave the guy a refund

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but i would VERY much like my old account back and have my name cleared

[Copperhorse]

Yeah I never got a refund lol.

[[MPGH]Flengo]

nothing is new, but i got my money back and gave the guy a refund

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but i would VERY much like my old account back and have my name cleared

You're gonna need to post some proof of that.

Yeah I never got a refund lol.