i don't think he was claiming he made them though ali.
I thought claiming something as your own when someone else made it was ripping? Please xplain what it is since you seem to think OTHERWISE.
And dont bitch at me and say "It is but he's not claiming he made it", because if he wasn't, why the fuck is his name on them? >.>
Btw, on the chaos one, why is the abstract part of it so amazing,yet your txt is absolute BULLSHIT, indicating that it is most likely ripped.
If these are yours (which I doubt, based on your past ripping), Id say the chaos one is better, because it's abstract and a little original, and because the army of two one is just stock/render + txt.