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    You thought about getting Win 10? Think again

    Some Czech guy did a traffic analysis of data produced by Windows 10, and released his findings the other day. His primary thesis was that Windows 10 acts more like a terminal than an operating system -- because of the extent of the "cloud" integration, a large portion of the OS functions are almost dependent on remote (Microsoft's) servers. The amount of collected information, even with strict privacy settings, is quite alarming.
    Information transmitted

    All text typed on the keyboard is stored in temporary files, and sent (once per 30 mins) to:

    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    pre.footprintpredict.com
    reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com

    There isn't a clear purpose for this, considering there there's no autocorrect/prediction anywhere in the OS (There is autocorrect in certain text fields, but the supposed purpose for transmitting these keystrokes is to improve autocorrect across devices. Whether a full keylog is necessary for this (as opposed to just corrections) is questionable. Furthermore, this appears to still occur even if the user is not signed in to a Microsoft account, eliminating the "across devices" benefit. Perhaps there is a global autocorrect dictionary that benefits all users, but the privacy implications of an un-disableable always-on keylogger outweigh these potential benefits.). The implications of this are significant: because this is an OS-level keylogger, all the data you're trying to transmit securely is now sitting on some MS server. This includes passwords and encrypted chats. This also includes the on-screen keyboard, so there is no way to authenticate to a website without MS also getting your password.

    Telemetry is sent once per 5 minutes, to:

    vortex.data.microsoft.com
    vortex-win.data.microsoft.com
    telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com
    telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com
    sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net

    You might think that "telemetry" has to do with OS usage or similar... turns out it's telemetry about the user. For example, typing a phone number anywhere into the Edge browser transmits it to the servers above. In another example, typing the name of any popular movie into your local file search starts a telemetry process that indexes all media files on your computer and transmits them to:

    df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net
    vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
    pre.footprintpredict.com

    It's hard to imagine any purpose for this other than the obvious piracy crackdown possiblities.

    When a webcam is first enabled, ~35mb of data gets immediately transmitted to:

    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
    i1.services.social.microsoft.com
    i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net

    Everything that is said into an enabled microphone is immediately transmitted to:

    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
    pre.footprintpredict.com
    i1.services.social.microsoft.com
    i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    telemetry.appex.bing.net
    telemetry.urs.microsoft.com
    cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net
    statsfe1.ws.microsoft.com

    If this weren't bad enough, this behaviour still occurs after Cortana is fully disabled/uninstalled. It's speculated that the purpose of this function to build up a massive voice database, then tie those voices to identities, and eventually be able to identify anyone simply by picking up their voice, whether it be a microphone in a public place or a wiretap on a payphone.

    Interestingly, if Cortana is enabled, the voice is first transcribed to text, then the transcription is sent to:

    pre.footprintpredict.com
    reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    df.telemetry.microsoft.com

    If Windows is left unattended for ~15 mins, a large volume of traffic starts being transmitted to various servers. This may be the raw audio data, rather than just samples.
    Other concerns

    While the inital reflex may be to block all of the above servers via HOSTS, it turns out this won't work: Microsoft has taken the care to hardcode certain IPs, meaning that there is no DNS lookup and no HOSTS consultation. However, if the above servers are blocked via HOSTS, Windows will pretend to be crippled by continuously throwing errors, while still maintaining data collection in the background. Other than an increase in errors, HOSTS blocking did not affect the volume, frequency, or rate of data being transmitted.

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    is it at least encrypted?

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    Windows 7 the best Windows.

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    Jokes on you, already got win 10.

    Honestly though, I don't care since I have nothing to hide.



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    I cant really understand why you guys have a real problem with that on Windows 10 . If you are clean , you got nothing to hide at all. I mean, none in Microsoft has the mood to check what you are doing in around billions of people they got in their systems. If you are a suspect of a web crime or a crime , why not check on your activity? This system will solve many problems in web criminality , but I guess if someone is willing to do something illegal , he wont be using W10. And by calling something illegal I mean , setting up a crime , getting into big business databases and stuff, not using a simple keylogger or cracker for League of Legends , LMAO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    Jokes on you, already got win 10.

    Honestly though, I don't care since I have nothing to hide.
    >nothing to hide
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    To be honest, this was to be expected. Cell phone companies already do this, and have been doing it.
    Microsoft, Apple and others have already been spying on everything their users do.
    The only "web crime" most people will commit is piracy, so be a smart pirate and don't do anything else idiotic and you're fine.
    I support the active spying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeuxx View Post
    >nothing to hide
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    Quote Originally Posted by No0bzDown View Post
    I cant really understand why you guys have a real problem with that on Windows 10 . If you are clean , you got nothing to hide at all. I mean, none in Microsoft has the mood to check what you are doing in around billions of people they got in their systems. If you are a suspect of a web crime or a crime , why not check on your activity? This system will solve many problems in web criminality , but I guess if someone is willing to do something illegal , he wont be using W10. And by calling something illegal I mean , setting up a crime , getting into big business databases and stuff, not using a simple keylogger or cracker for League of Legends , LMAO.
    You are completely missing the point.
    Its a complete violation of privacy and its illegal as fuck for Microsoft to take data without us knowing. The fact that Microsoft doesn't inform you correctly about them using your data is bullshit.

    Anyone want to file a class action lawsuit against Microsoft for invasion of privacy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    I don't care since I have nothing to hide.
    that has to be the worst argument on not caring

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