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    Question [Help] Scammed | Paypal Balance Negative -$700.00+ | Potential Collection Effort :(

    Hello MPGH Community,



    Recently, I've been involved in a large amount of charge backs, the most recent ones were pretty huge. I intially started selling on MPGH to help raise funds for my sister's education. She is currently at a 2nd grade level while in Sophmore standing in High School. In other words, my sister is special needs. Small chargebacks were somewhat bare-able. However, at this time I don't think I can withstand such huge losses. I am not just asking for donations, though it would be helpful and appreciated. I'm asking for any and all help I can get to recover my balance to positive to avoid going into debt and potentially ruining my credit score due to being scammed.

    I've tried to resolve the dispute with Paypal, but I am told my transactions are not covered by their policy and they automatically favored the buyer due to this.

    I'm just lost in words, do scammers really think products, services, and money grow on trees? I treated all of my customer politely and respectfully throughout my run in the market place.

    I just want back, equivalent for what I sold. If anyone can help me recover my funds please let me know.
    Or even advice on ways I can quickly make money to pay off the negative balance as a result of being scammed.

    Here are pictures of the scammer, Andrew Chang .











    I made the decision to request and pleed for help after reciving this message from Paypal:

    "It is very important that you address the balance on your account today to ensure continued availability of your PayPal Account and to avoid additional collection efforts."

    I've also found the following information
    Code:
    The Harker School
    San Jose, California
    2015 to 2019 · San Jose, California
    Middle School: Harker School
    School Email & Paypal Login Email: 19andrewc@students.harker.org
    Hobbies: Robotics
    Clubs: Harker Chinese Club Education 
    Interest: Pokemon, Science, Forensics 
    Potential Colleges: Lynfield College, Harvard College, Stanford
    Teams: LA Lakers, Golden State Warriors
    Music: Eminem
    Mentor: Wei Shao who lives in San Jose, California , Sons: Gene Wang (https://www.facebook.com/gwang0136 ) & Ray Wang (https://www.facebook.com/ray.wang.146069)
    
    Friends: David Zhu, Gene Wang, Hasan Jamal, Kaity Gee, Erana Wan, Sophia Horng, Karan Walia, Norman Garcia, Timmy Chang, Jacob Kim, Michael Sikand, Maxwell Woehrmann, Alex Lu, Aashe Sreekumar, Austin Hou, Floyd Gordon, Jennifer HayashI, Justin Su, Kai Franz, Jenna Lawl, Kevin Vinke Xu, Taylor Lam, Austin Hou, Elizabeth Yang, Shikhar Solanki Shomrik Mondal , Kathleen Cheng, Katherine Tian, Aaron Smith, Vance Hirota, Kobe Howard, Richa Bhattacharya, Esha Deokar, Richard Wang, Helen Yang
    
    Family Members:	
    Paul Lee
    Alias: 李金麟
    Uncle
    High School - https://www.facebook.com/pages/%E5%B7%A6%E7%87%9F%E9%AB%98%E4%B8%AD/116120701732185?ref=br_rs (左營高中)
    Location: Lives in Tainan, Taiwan From Kaohsiung, Taiwan
    Brother in Law - https://www.facebook.com/FLYINGENERAL (森源)
    Brother in Law’s Occupations: https://www.facebook.com/pages/%E8%8F%AF%E5%A8%81%E8%91%9B%E7%91%9E%E5%BB%A3%E5%91%8A%E5%85%AC%E5%8F%B8/245641955585408?rf=513293718757411 (Taipei, Taiwan), https://www.facebook.com/pages/%E6%96%B0%E4%BC%A0/123494387667337 
    Brother in Law’s Education: Chinese Culture University , https://www.facebook.com/pages/Chinese-Culture-University/108456819178791?rf=106012612763858 ( +886 2 2861 0511 , https://www.pccu.edu.tw/ ) , https://www.facebook.com/jianguohighschool/?rf=143502535713010 jianguohighschool 
    Brother in Law’s Location: Lives in Shanghai, China From Taipei Taiwan
     
    
    以敏郁
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    Formosean Aron De LeLac
    Cousin
    Christine Chin
    Cousin
    Nina Chin
    Family member
    Peggy Chang
    Family member
    Ray Chang
    Family member
    Eric Wang
    
    His Birthday is May 12. As for the year I'm unsure. What I do know is he was ethier born in 1991 or he provided false information and he will graduate in 2018/2019.
    School URL: https://www.harker.org/upper-school
    Skype: live:Andrew.awesomedood

    Thank you all for your help & support. /bow

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    Hit up his family members and tell the lil faggot to give you your money back, what the hell did she buy that was 700??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Royce View Post
    Hit up his family members and tell the lil faggot to give you your money back, what the hell did she buy that was 700??
    Hi @Royce

    At first, just $25.00 exchange Paypal -> Bitcoin. Then after several $100.00 transactions and an $200.00 transaction. I'll try see if I can find emails or phone numbers for his family members or himself, I'm having a hard time with find them.

    Thanks for your advice. /bow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elitist07 View Post
    What this guy did is completely outrageous. Sorry for the loss man
    Hi @Elitist07 ,

    Your kind words are also appreciated. I wish you luck in all your future endevours. I'm glad you understand my situation, it really is outrageous and tragic. /bow

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    Did you use legit info for the PayPal, if not simply start over, and this time make sure to keep your money on another account,bank or even Bitcoin to be safe as Fck. Since I got chargeback quite a lot too, I simply converted them to Bitcoin and now i feel safe as ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heaven View Post
    Did you use legit info for the PayPal, if not simply start over, and this time make sure to keep your money on another account,bank or even Bitcoin to be safe as Fck. Since I got chargeback quite a lot too, I simply converted them to Bitcoin and now i feel safe as ever.
    Hi @Heaven,

    Sadly I used legit information for my Paypal account. I now wish I hadn't because I've researched online Paypal does forward negative balance to collection agencies. I don't know what to do now... I provided the product & service, but payment is now reversed.

    I'll keep your advice in mind for the future though. Thank you. /bow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punkie View Post
    Hi @Heaven,

    Sadly I used legit information for my Paypal account. I now wish I hadn't because I've researched online Paypal does forward negative balance to collection agencies. I don't know what to do now... I provided the product & service, but payment is now reversed.

    I'll keep your advice in mind for the future though. Thank you. /bow
    Since you used your personal info, simply call paypal and tell them he scammed you. and I prefer you to get a proxy and use an alt paypal, so ask them to send it to the alt and from alt to main, and even if he chargebacks, since there is no money , and since it is alt, he'll simply fuck it up.

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    Hi @Heaven,

    I'll try ring up Paypal, hopefully they can help me out. As the dispute/claim was concluded in the buyers favor. It was very weird for me, as I have the transaction records for the Bitcoin confirmations, which I provided. Thank you for your great advice!

    /bow

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    @Heaven I used Paypal Gift and I sold a digital good (bitcoin), what should I tell them? Thanks for all the help btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punkie View Post
    Hi @Heaven,

    I'll try ring up Paypal, hopefully they can help me out. As the dispute/claim was concluded in the buyers favor. It was very weird for me, as I have the transaction records for the Bitcoin confirmations, which I provided. Thank you for your great advice!

    /bow

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    @Heaven I used Paypal Gift and I sold a digital good (bitcoin), what should I tell them? Thanks for all the help btw.
    Np, I am quite experienced with this case this I had this myself, of course I wasn't at -$700 but still money is money
    so when trading in the note section did you ask your customers to write exchange? or something like that?

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    Andrew Chang is a scammer. Yes, he charges back on tons of things. He scammed someone in the MP a while back and was banned. He scammed on behalf of @Gazz if I so recall correctly.

     


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heaven View Post
    Np, I am quite experienced with this case this I had this myself, of course I wasn't at -$700 but still money is money
    so when trading in the note section did you ask your customers to write exchange? or something like that?
    I don't ask my customers to write notes. The few times I did, none of them wrote the notes, sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arioch View Post
    @Punkie

    Andrew Chang is a scammer. Yes, he charges back on tons of things. He scammed someone in the MP a while back and was banned. He scammed on behalf of @Gazz if I so recall correctly.
    Hi @Arioch,

    Thanks for letting me know.
    If we all called his school, do you think this would work out? I really don't want to go into debt or ruin my credit score. I did some digging and Paypal does forward negative balance to collection agencies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punkie View Post
    I don't ask my customers to write notes. The few times I did, none of them wrote the notes, sadly.

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    If we all called his school, do you think this would work out? I really don't want to go into debt or ruin my credit score. I did some digging and Paypal does forward negative balance to collection agencies...
    be sure to ask them too, just incase this happens again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punkie View Post
    I don't ask my customers to write notes. The few times I did, none of them wrote the notes, sadly.

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    If we all called his school, do you think this would work out? I really don't want to go into debt or ruin my credit score. I did some digging and Paypal does forward negative balance to collection agencies...
    Upper School
    500 Saratoga Ave., San Jose, CA 95129
    Phone: 408.249.2510 | Fax: 408.984.2325

    Middle School
    3800 Blackford Ave., San Jose, CA 95117
    Phone: 408.248.2510 | Fax: 408.248.2502

    Lower School
    4300 Bucknall Rd., San Jose, CA 95130
    Phone: 408.871.4600 | Fax: 408.871.4320

    Preschool
    4525 Union Ave., San Jose, CA 95124
    Phone: 408.553.5700 | Fax: 408.559.2014

    There are the schools contact numbers. Call in about him and report his behavior. Threaten to call the police etc and tell them you would like to talk to his parents about it and to email them to call the school and explain to them what happened.

     


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