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    Ya typing to much for me to read! D:

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgPound View Post
    Ya typing to much for me to read! D:
    It's called 'tl;dr', or 'too long, didn't read'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axel View Post
    I think it would be a good arguement for my theory?
    Ah well, you're the most intelligent person here on MPGH, so I won't whine

    Don't worry I'm not. I refuse to think that I'm better than anyone else.

    My point of view would be; I've seen people change. I've seen myself change.
    I've seen a lot of people, which I told about Karma, and what would be the benefits if they tried it.
    Some did, and other didn't.
    The people who did try it, did change.
    Some got luck, and others got wealth 'n fortune.
    It didn't matter what they got, they were all a lot happier.
    Kids, teenagers, adults, it didn't matter.
    And that made me even more confident about the existence of Karma.

    Whether or not people became happier by believing in Karma says nothing about the validity of Karma. Since you enjoy quoting people here's a quote:
    "The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one."
    ~George Bernard Shaw

    Now about this wealth and fortune, if this were true wouldn't Buddhists be disproportionately wealthier than any other religious group? If you're looking for evidence in support of Karma that wouldn't necessarily prove Karma's existence but it would be a good objective point to start from. To my knowledge there is no such imbalance of wealth towards Buddhists, but if you can present me with any statistical evidence in support of your hypothesis I would be glad to reconsider my position.


    About Reļncarnation.
    I believe that Karma can't correct all of your mistakes, in just one live.
    Hmm, I need an example here..
    Ehm..
    See it like an action-reaction kind of thingie.
    When somebody punches YOU, and I stated you, because you aren't a Buddhist?, you punch him back, don't you?

    I generally try to avoid physical altercations, not that I couldn't hold my own ground if I need to defend myself or others, but I find violence only exacerbates issues.

    That's an action-reaction.
    Whatever you do, Karma will correct to its maximum capability.
    Of course it can't go further, as his maximum, and he will let you Reļncarnate, that he can go on, and help you improve your life.

    You really have driven me into a corner bro'.
    I'm hoping this is a good enough comeback (:
    I'm trying to be a more gentle skeptic, people often conflate skepticism with pessimism and narcissism and I'd like to avoid those connotations.
    "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter." ~ Denis Diderot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axel View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dead Bones Brook View Post
    It's called 'tl;dr', or 'too long, didn't read'.
    He probably isn't /b/tarded like you.


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    Unfortunately most people who believe in nothing at all (relating to after life, God etc.) don't understand what that truly means. And I only wished that most atheist were atheist in that sense that way I would know they'd have to be pretty bad ass to give up on existence all together.
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    It's hilarious that they believe in nothing at all and think they can still cling to shallow ideals like, hope, society, or life. Understand you're Disregarding existence and call yourself an atheist and I'll be impressed in many ways.
    "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first." John 15:18

    "True strength isn't determined by when a man has a lot and gives enough, but when he has nothing left but keeps on giving."
    "A man is determined by the strength of his will."
    "Courage has nothing to do with ascertaining any sense of certainty, but the will to go on even
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superpunt View Post
    He probably isn't /b/tarded like you.
    Most people on mpgh say tl;dr.

    @ arhk i believe in science. I'm atheist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arhk View Post

    You disregarded all of the big picture facts I presented and started talking about shallow things relating to Human society. / Ignore your lack of logic but congratz on living a purposeless existence. I even exemplified that fact that life itself was self validating and therefore purposeless but you also used that as an arguing point?
    You also referred to hope while I referred to existence..... Are you trying to argue religion?
    ~
    Your logic is very shallow in the fact you're still The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. George Bernard Shaw
    Inorder for us to be on the same page I need you to give up the prospect of things like that, you're hugging too close to the ideals of human superiority, if you're going to live in a world without God or an after life of some kind live it full on and understand what you're saying.
    Big picture my ass, you want to accuse me of reductionism go ahead but I'm not going to paraphrase every single one of your claims. Honestly Arhk I don't like to do this but I'm going to get a bit ranty here so hold on. Where the fuck do you get off telling me I live a purposeless existence? Who gave you the right to be the arbiter of purpose? My purpose comes from within, my purpose comes from myself and others around me, it doesn't matter that my purpose in life isn't based on a predefined script. Just how smug are you that you think you can tell me I live a purposeless existence?

    I just read your second paragraph and what an inane pile of horse shit. Try to rephrase that in manner that makes sense.
    "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter." ~ Denis Diderot

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    If you don't believe in anything, how do you think how humanity started?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arhk View Post
    Unfortunately most people who believe in nothing at all don't understand what that truly means. And I only wished that most atheist were atheist in that sense that way I would know they'd have to be pretty bad ass to give up on existence all together.
    ~
    It's hilarious that they believe in nothing at all and think they can still cling to shallow ideals like, hope, society, or life. Understand you're Disregarding existence and call yourself an atheist and I'll be impressed in many ways.
    I do believe there's something up there. I just think most atm religions are bullshit. And I don't think that the thing up there has to be worshipped.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgPound View Post
    I am so lost...
    Budha can help you find your path

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Axel
    Originally Posted by Axel
    I think it would be a good arguement for my theory?
    Ah well, you're the most intelligent person here on MPGH, so I won't whine

    Don't worry I'm not. I refuse to think that I'm better than anyone else.

    My point of view would be; I've seen people change. I've seen myself change.
    I've seen a lot of people, which I told about Karma, and what would be the benefits if they tried it.
    Some did, and other didn't.
    The people who did try it, did change.
    Some got luck, and others got wealth 'n fortune.
    It didn't matter what they got, they were all a lot happier.
    Kids, teenagers, adults, it didn't matter.
    And that made me even more confident about the existence of Karma.

    Whether or not people became happier by believing in Karma says nothing about the validity of Karma. Since you enjoy quoting people here's a quote:
    "The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one."
    ~George Bernard Shaw

    Now about this wealth and fortune, if this were true wouldn't Buddhists be disproportionately wealthier than any other religious group? If you're looking for evidence in support of Karma that wouldn't necessarily prove Karma's existence but it would be a good objective point to start from. To my knowledge there is no such imbalance of wealth towards Buddhists, but if you can present me with any statistical evidence in support of your hypothesis I would be glad to reconsider my position.


    About Reļncarnation.
    I believe that Karma can't correct all of your mistakes, in just one live.
    Hmm, I need an example here..
    Ehm..
    See it like an action-reaction kind of thingie.
    When somebody punches YOU, and I stated you, because you aren't a Buddhist?, you punch him back, don't you?

    I generally try to avoid physical altercations, not that I couldn't hold my own ground if I need to defend myself or others, but I find violence only exacerbates issues.

    That's an action-reaction.
    Whatever you do, Karma will correct to its maximum capability.
    Of course it can't go further, as his maximum, and he will let you Reļncarnate, that he can go on, and help you improve your life.

    You really have driven me into a corner bro'.
    I'm hoping this is a good enough comeback (:
    I'm trying to be a more gentle skeptic, people often conflate skepticism with pessimism and narcissism and I'd like to avoid those connotations.
    As for the things you wrote in my quote.
    1) Yes, yes you are. I dare to say without any doubts that you are one of the most intelligent persons at MPGH.
    2) You've got a point there, but it did for me. It did valid more the existence of Karma for me. And what I believe, is what I believe. You can deny everything what I stand for. But that would be your opinion. I have mine, and you have yours .
    3) Pfft, you got me there. I think that either it could be coincidence, but it could also be Karma. Maybe a coincidle(or however you spell it)-Karma change for the better? I don't know, you don't know, we all don't know. And we all can't proof that.
    But, there are 2 type's of Buddhists.
    3.1) The type of Buddhist I am.
    3.2) The type of Buddhists that live in temple's.
    3.1 explanation as far as I'm capable of;
    We're Buddhists, as far as we want to go for being a Buddhist. We don't follow the rules that strictly(like no sexual intercourse o.o no way Buddha, just no ) but we still follow the other rules and paths as we are ''learned'' to do.
    3.2 explanation as far as I'm capable of;
    Those Buddhists, are Buddhists as Buddhists should be.
    As most of the people would call them, Monks.
    Shaven head, robes, and 0.0% fortune.
    Those monks live by what the Earth give them.
    They CAN'T accept/trade money, they CAN'T trade food and other resources, et cetera.
    Those monks, live the way of the Buddha a 100% strict.
    4) That is what you do, but I think that a lot of other people, would punch back.
    It was just an example, to support my explanation.

    Pfft, bro, I love you so much, but you're discussing the shit outta me, and that's exhausting me.
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