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    Mind-fuck

    I'm stoned, so therefore:

    I had an epiphany the other day which changed the way I think about neuroscience. I allowed the idea to settle a little, but now I'm certain -- it's a big problem. This is gonna be a complete mind-fuck, or perhaps brain-fuck is a better word.

    Neuroscience is ultimately about rationalizing the thought processes going on in our brains, and the brains of others. How do scientists go about doing this though? Put simply -- by using their brains. This is inherently an inescapable form of circular logic. How on earth are we ever meant to really find out how our brains works, by using our brains? What if the mechanisms of our brain processes are built in such a way that obstructs us from ever seeing what reality is? Whatever reality is anyway.

    Ultimately we are slaves to our brains wiring. Our brain, our gateway to reality, may be showing us some sort of reality that isn't even real. For this reason, I've come to believe that we are never going to be able to truly know how our brains works, because after all, what we know is relative to how our brains store and interpret information. Reality is a relative concept. There really is no right, wrong or real -- only what we perceive things to be. Because of this, the brain will forever be a mystery, unless we come up with some way to perceive it from a non-bias thrid party, but even then, seeing as the third party would be a creation of us, it too would ultimately be a slave to our own brains mechanisms, and therefore would also be inevitably bias too.

    I believe the implications of this 'brain paradox' extend far further than the reaches of neuroscience. Neuroscientists are not the only scientists using their brains to understand the world around them. Chemists and physicists too are also bound by the this paradox. The brain is essentially a pattern recognition machine. What if all the patterns we see in chemistry and physics are merely things that came about, due to the nature of our 'pattern loving' brains. How are we to know that physics and chemistry will ever be able to show us what is 'real' because ultimately even what physicists and chemists believe to be real comes down to the way in which their brain interprets the data. What if scientists infinitely continue discovering more and more complex patterns in the world around us?

    Due to the nature of our brains, there is a very real possibility that the world around us could be infinitely complex, at least in our perception of it. The brain naturally makes more and more connections between external stimuli in order to create a continually growing complexity of understanding. Honestly, this is where quantum physics appears to be heading. We used to think we were only made of atoms. Wrong. Not only are atoms made of protons, neutrons and electrons, these sub-atomic particles have sub-sub-atomic particles like leptons, quarks, baryons and mesons which are in turn also made of even smaller particles.... how deep down the rabbit hole can we really delve? And furthermore, to understand the brain, would we not need to have an equally complex understanding of the particles which it is made of?

    Would anyone like to try and disprove me? I've tried myself, and can't find any way around this paradox.... it's really racking my, ugh, brain... you get the point?
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    What the heck is that?? only read 1st line and didnt understand so i stopped....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furby View Post
    What the heck is that?? only read 1st line and didnt understand so i stopped....
    Intelligence is a key.

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    i hope your wearing a condom cause i have a dirty mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpj View Post
    i hope your wearing a condom cause i have a dirty mind
    +1 Post count for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trapstar View Post
    +1 Post count for you.
    your goddamn right

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    That was the fucking point..... but nope, dumbasses won't read it and give replies on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trapstar View Post
    That was the fucking point.....
    Your troll has been called out. The quoted response is an attempt to shrug this off by saying, "Obviously I copied it, that was the point…" but you have failed. you have added one line to your original response that proves this:

    "I'm stoned, so therefore:
    ..."

    This is meant to show that you wrote all of this as a result of you being stoned. You also did not show any link to the original source. Stop being a newfag and just admit that you are in fact, a copy and pasting, attention whoring, faggot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConnorCG View Post


    Your troll has been called out. The quoted response is an attempt to shrug this off by saying, "Obviously I copied it, that was the point…" but you have failed. you have added one line to your original response that proves this:

    "I'm stoned, so therefore:
    ..."

    This is meant to show that you wrote all of this as a result of you being stoned. You also did not show any link to the original source. Stop being a newfag and just admit that you are in fact, a copy and pasting, attention whoring, faggot.
    Because you fucking idiot, first off, that's not where I got this from. I got it from somewhere else, and the guy that typed this was fried. It was a "I'm stoned, so therefore", one of them. Shut the fuck up, and continue to play on your gay little fuckface Mac, with doing nothing but sitting behind a computer for hours while life passes you by saying Fuck you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furby View Post
    What the heck is that?? only read 1st line and didnt understand so i stopped....
    Now we know this guys some 10 year old, using his daddys laptop.

    Most of that makes sense.

    But I dont really think about it, your brain just is the way it's meant to be. And it thinks the way it's meant to be.

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    The brain is a fucked up thing =l

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    Ay, No need to get pissed over someone disapproving your thread or post.

    so get the fuck off Connor.

    So what if he's anti social, he's cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trapstar View Post
    Because you fucking idiot, first off, that's not where I got this from. I got it from somewhere else, and the guy that typed this was fried. It was a "I'm stoned, so therefore", one of them. Shut the fuck up, and continue to play on your gay little fuckface Mac, with doing nothing but sitting behind a computer for hours while life passes you by saying Fuck you.
    So the only insult that you can come up with is that I use a Mac computer? Man, that's a good one. I saw you edit the post and add the first line in, so you obviously didn't copy that part, hence you were trying to show that you typed this up yourself.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Ay, No need to get pissed over someone disapproving your thread or post.

    so get the fuck off Connor.

    So what if he's anti social, he's cool
    Not anti-social, anti-in-person-social.

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