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    So for everyone that doesnt know, Ive been moving out of my house, into a new one, and am trying to get the internet here squared away at my new house. But the house is a little old, and the phone jacks that are close to my room where my computer is are dead. There is one on the other side of the house which is about 50 feet away.

    So right now I am connected through wireless, which is sketchy at best. The house is a mason one, made out of cinderblocks and concrete. So even though I bought a decent Linksys router, I still have a shitty wireless connection. Im getting less than 1mbit download here, and the speed should be about 3mbit. (a drop from my 6.5 at the old house /bawww)

    So my question is: How bad would it effect the strength of the connection, if I ran about 60 feet of ethernet cable from the router on the other side of the house, outside, and back in my room here? There is an option to hook up a new modem and then run about 25-50 feet through the wall to here thanks to me just finding a live phone jack in the living room. But that is going to be about $20 or $30 more expensive.

    Before anyone cries about wrong section, the help sections are pretty quiet, and I need to know by like, tomorrow with some decent responses, so inb4spamanyways. I would normally just figure these things out myself, but working with networking has always been shady territory for me, as I am more of a hardware person.
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    I don't think it would do much at all to your speed, maybe take a second or two longer to connect but you should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DickLovingFaggotBitch View Post
    I don't think it would do much at all to your speed, maybe take a second or two longer to connect but you should be fine.
    Thats kinda what Im worried about. If it effects ping in games much. Because I went from 30-50 ping (in mw2) at my old house, to the lowest being 110 on this wireless connection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by derpderp View Post
    Thats kinda what Im worried about. If it effects ping in games much. Because I went from 30-50 ping (in mw2) at my old house, to the lowest being 110 on this wireless connection.
    Yea, your ping is going to go up a little from a long cable, but not much
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    Good internets doesnt exist way out here in the sticks. 10mbit is about as good as it gets. Im starting to wonder if there is another way. Its not high up on my list of shit to get fixed atm, but its starting to piss me off. Its constantly freezing up now.
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    If I were in the position, I'd go with the wired set up. From my past experience networking my house and few friend's, 50' wouldn't affect your ping that much at all. Most users prefer wired over wireless anyways, and with the home details you gave, you probably won't have that great of signal with wireless. Just from my Linksys into a room down the hall, the signal drops immensely, and this Linksys has rangeboost and all that junk. =\


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    In that, the only shit you need to look at is the 2nd and 3rd lines. That said, I'm only talking about propagation delay (latency, as you know it). There are other concerns that arise if you're trying to make a REALLY long cable (like >300 feet). You get signal degradation past that. I'd go into more detail, but my Transmission Lines knowledge is a bit fuzzy now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killian View Post
    If I were in the position, I'd go with the wired set up. From my past experience networking my house and few friend's, 50' wouldn't affect your ping that much at all. Most users prefer wired over wireless anyways, and with the home details you gave, you probably won't have that great of signal with wireless. Just from my Linksys into a room down the hall, the signal drops immensely, and this Linksys has rangeboost and all that junk. =\


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    Delay skew < 100 MHz    < 0.20          ns/m
    In that, the only shit you need to look at is the 2nd and 3rd lines. That said, I'm only talking about propagation delay (latency, as you know it). There are other concerns that arise if you're trying to make a REALLY long cable (like >300 feet). You get signal degradation past that. I'd go into more detail, but my Transmission Lines knowledge is a bit fuzzy now.
    Ahh that seems to be a little better. So using about 60 feet of cable would not have a very big impact over using just a regular 10 foot or so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by derpderp View Post
    Ahh that seems to be a little better. So using about 60 feet of cable would not have a very big impact over using just a regular 10 foot or so?
    Nope. Not much at all. Once you exceed 95 meters, then you'll start having signal problems, and will probably need a repeater.
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    Honestly wire length shouldn't be much of a problem, as long as you don't have a bunch of extra coiled up which could cause line interference. Just keep in mind that data travels at the speed of light no matter how you put it, I would go with a long wired set up over a shitty wireless signal any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iverson954360 View Post
    Honestly wire length shouldn't be much of a problem, as long as you don't have a bunch of extra coiled up which could cause line interference. Just keep in mind that data travels at the speed of light no matter how you put it, I would go with a long wired set up over a shitty wireless signal any day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iverson954360 View Post
    Honestly wire length shouldn't be much of a problem, as long as you don't have a bunch of extra coiled up which could cause line interference. Just keep in mind that data travels at the speed of light no matter how you put it, I would go with a long wired set up over a shitty wireless signal any day.
    ya fucking right fuck wifi i have a 300foot cable runing from my modem

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    sounds like Im good anyways. The only reason I asked is because I read something somewhere about long wires having problems, but I guess its good. I should be able to set it up within the next few days, and then I will just have to worry about the connection itself. I have been getting really mixed results from speed/ping tests from around the house.
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