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    Are Consoles holding back Game Development?

    I'm making a video later this evening/tomorrow on this topic.

    My opinion is:
    Yes.


    What are your opinions plus what are your arguments for them? I'm interested to see, and might quote you in that video. (With credits and source OFC)

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    I am going to argue that they are not. With increasing competition and video games be oming worlds famous, they must take longer to produce hit games that people will buy and enjoy. The standards are higher than they used to be and sometimes you just run out of ideas. Higher standards also mean a longer time to create the game. Gaming engines also need to be constantly modified and updated to be the best. And if I was one of the top programmers, I'd be spitting out the best games I could make as fast as I could make them to make more money lol

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    Yes, look at ArmA 2. That game is so big and enhanced because it's just made for PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paralyze. View Post
    Yes, look at ArmA 2. That game is so big and enhanced because it's just made for PC.
    Yeah, I think some clear proof is that PC-Exclusives have way advanced technic than cross-platform games.
    BF3 on PC runs great, BF3 on console runs crappy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroTroubles View Post


    Yeah, I think some clear proof is that PC-Exclusives have way advanced technic than cross-platform games.
    BF3 on PC runs great, BF3 on console runs crappy.
    I'm sure that if BF3 was pc-only it would have been much more epic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paralyze. View Post


    I'm sure that if BF3 was pc-only it would have been much more epic.
    Agreed, which is why I am hoping balls-deep that BF4 is nextgen

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroTroubles View Post


    Agreed, which is why I am hoping balls-deep that BF4 is nextgen
    That already is confirmed by EA/DICE. But, if I'm right, it's going to be able to be played on PS3 and XBOX360 too.
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    Depends on how you are talking about holding back development.

    Because of ease of access, consoles have helped push gaming to its largest scale its ever been, thanks to lowest common denominator type sales, and restrictions built around making games easier to pop out like candy.

    On the flip side, quality has gone down so more dedicated gamers who want deep experiences and intricate gameplay dont enjoy it as much because those things are hard to produce en masse.

    Consoles themselves are only physically restricting hardware advancements. Everything else is based on what consumers want. Game developers are running companies, not charities. They need money and put their development to where the money goes. Its the people who are wanting cheap bland experiences that are holding back gaming, not a platform. People who dont have the time or desire to wrap themselves in a game dont want to have to, so cheaper less engaging experiences are needed to keep these people happy, and their money flowing into the pockets of people whose profession is to make video games.
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    I would say no for one they have to make money some how and with the way shit is going with the PS4 it doesn't look like there getting held back. Also console is what makes gamer makers money. They lose money when they come out with a pc game and they have said this that is why pc almost always gets the game last because of so many people just downloading it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshcarr2006 View Post
    I would say no for one they have to make money some how and with the way shit is going with the PS4 it doesn't look like there getting held back. Also console is what makes gamer makers money. They lose money when they come out with a pc game and they have said this that is why pc almost always gets the game last because of so many people just downloading it.
    Falling for the old piracy kills sales gambit eh?

    See my above point, but PC gets second hand for reasons other than piracy, but nobody wants to admit it, because piracy is the easy way to be lazy. Like blaming video games for school shootings instead of actually admitting they were bad people.

    Nobody is losing money with PC games. Sales appear to be low because no sales statistic can account for sales on steam, or most D2D sales in the first place. Physical copy sales have dropped, but PC gamers are still buying and playing games on the same level console players are.
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    Consoles are the best. Don't got Zelda, Sonic, Final Fantasy, Super smash bros on a PC

    Cuz nintendo and sega are where it's at. Sega should make another console to live up to the dreamcast.

    Dreamcast easily beat any computer or console at the time


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroTroubles View Post


    Yeah, I think some clear proof is that PC-Exclusives have way advanced technic than cross-platform games.
    BF3 on PC runs great, BF3 on console runs crappy.
    Really? I had NO problems playing it on my ps3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual Void View Post
    Consoles are the best. Don't got Zelda, Sonic, Final Fantasy, Super smash bros on a PC

    Cuz nintendo and sega are where it's at. Sega should make another console to live up to the dreamcast.

    Dreamcast easily beat any computer or console at the time


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    Really? I had NO problems playing it on my ps3
    I have all of those on my PC. / Emulators FTW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heartview View Post
    I have all of those on my PC. / Emulators FTW.
    Emulating a console, and as good as emulators are, they will always have problems that don't exist on real hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual Void View Post


    Emulating a console, and as good as emulators are, they will always have problems that don't exist on real hardware.
    Except I have never had a problem with one, and many of them come with recording features, and the ability to up the graphics. I run all my ps2 games at 4x the native resolution, and get faster load/save times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heartview View Post
    Except I have never had a problem with one, and many of them come with recording features, and the ability to up the graphics. I run all my ps2 games at 4x the native resolution, and get faster load/save times.
    Let's take Wii for example. Yeah you can emulated at 1080p, but cannot find many games which run without minor graphics issues or flaws. Random speed downs. Even trying to emulate a dreamcast or gamecube, both over a decade old is still far from perfect and many emulators are not able to emulate without minor graphic errors or other problems like controls.

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