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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual Void View Post


    Not necessarily has been always. Can you imagine getting Sega Saturn graphics (correctly done, not poor 3rd parties who don't know how to use the hardware) on a computer of 1994?

    I'd like to see a computer from 1994 (JP saturn release year) being able to do something like this



    Seems a little advanced for 1994 hardware, doesn't it?
    It's not 1994 hence the reason why that is 100% irrelevant in this situation.

    In this day and age computers are the dominating thing for gamers, consoles are just for children who can't afford a real gaming pc, and like playing with 3 or more friends.

    Computers have everything in one, consoles have Internet access etc and games obviously but they are just not advanced enough to be ranked equal to pc.

    Consoles are holding back the gaming industry, and they are just making crap releases 24/7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristanz View Post
    PC has and always will be the main platform used for gaming. Consoles are held back pieces of shit, they are stupid and useless when you have a pc.
    Consoles do hold games back, especially the good ones, the good games are usually part of launches of consoles, or whenever they are approved by the console creator, console is just a huge waste of time.
    1. When you say it has and always will be, you are pretty much saying that it has always been that PCs are superior than consoles.
    2. You say consoles are held back pieces of shit and there is no use when you have a PC, but if it was 1994, I'd be shitting my pants seeing graphics like that, considering super famicom (2D, 16 bit console in case you didn't know) was still a big player in gaming back then. On the saturn (1994) you got 1.54 MB VRAM, rendering 500k polygons a second with 24 bit color at resolutions above 640x480, find a single PC from then that could do such a thing.

    Keep in mind when you say "has", you bring the past into the discussion, so don't say anything about it being irrelevant when YOU brought the past into this yourself!
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    Stop talkin' shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroTroubles View Post
    Stop talkin' shit
    and who is talking shit here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual Void View Post


    and who is talking shit here?
    You're talking shit about 'herr derr RAM doesnt matter'

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroTroubles View Post


    You're talking shit about 'herr derr RAM doesnt matter'
    You're pretty late. And RAM and CPU does not matter as much. For example, consoles were always less powerful that PCs, yet they managed to show visuals and mechanics that would be impossible on a PC with the same specs. For example, the dreamcast was released in November 1998, and had

    16 mb ram, 200 mhz SH-4 processor, GPU running at 100 mhz 8 mb VRAM

    Yet such low specs compared to a computer of the time, at peak the dreamcast could render 7 million polygons a second

    Compared to a computer of the time, those specs are embarrassing. Even my *low end* computer from 1999 had a 450 mhz processor and 64 MB RAM, with an additional 32 MB nVidia card, and yet can't even run a game like Sim City 4. Yet something like the dreamcast, with a good developer could render up to 7 million polygons a second, with dynamic lighting, Full scene anti-aliasing and trilinear and Anisotropic filtering

    I also forgot to mention the dreamcast ran at full 60 fps while consoles like gamecube was only 30

    Skip to 0:50 for gameplay (See if a PC from 1998 will run something like this)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual Void View Post


    You're pretty late. And RAM and CPU does not matter as much. For example, consoles were always less powerful that PCs, yet they managed to show visuals and mechanics that would be impossible on a PC with the same specs. For example, the dreamcast was released in November 1998, and had

    16 mb ram, 200 mhz SH-4 processor, GPU running at 100 mhz 8 mb VRAM

    Yet such low specs compared to a computer of the time, at peak the dreamcast could render 7 million polygons a second

    Compared to a computer of the time, those specs are embarrassing. Even my *low end* computer from 1999 had a 450 mhz processor and 64 MB RAM, with an additional 32 MB nVidia card, and yet can't even run a game like Sim City 4. Yet something like the dreamcast, with a good developer could render up to 7 million polygons a second, with dynamic lighting, Full scene anti-aliasing and trilinear and Anisotropic filtering

    Skip to 0:50 for gameplay
    Argh, I'm done talking to ignorant people.
    Go fucking read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroTroubles View Post


    Argh, I'm done talking to ignorant people.
    Go fucking read.
    I'd love for you to explain to me how I'm ignorant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual Void View Post


    I'd love for you to explain to me how I'm ignorant
    If You'd read. You'd find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroTroubles View Post


    If You'd read. You'd find out.
    What kind of answer is that? Is it because you're trying to avoid saying a reason yourself? I read every post on this thread, so perhaps I need a little help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual Void View Post
    I'd love for you to explain to me how I'm ignorant
    You compare old tech instead of modern tech, and you're trying to run a 2003 game on a 1999 computer
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    The problem is that we're people. People are shitty beings, you just gotta keep that in mind.
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