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    I'm referring to a few theories I read on how things came to be, before evolving ever started, and they both rely on spontaneous, law breaking, acts that have never been seen by man before. The big bang theory and some quantum physics article I read. And well, all of Newton's laws for example.

    My point is: If you rely on faith in a science that was never actually seen by humans, how are you not a man of faith? Thy name is irony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sexy View Post
    Stop your hard words, honey.. >.< English isn't my native.

    And my beleave is LOGIC. Let's discuss it.
    WTF what is your native language?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toymaker View Post
    I'm referring to a few theories I read on how things came to be, before evolving ever started, and they both rely on spontaneous, law breaking, acts that have never been seen by man before. The big bang theory and some quantum physics article I read. And well, all of Newton's laws for example.

    My point is: If you rely on faith in a science that was never actually seen by humans, how are you not a man of faith? Thy name is irony.
    Because some events only occur once (like BB), thus all we have to measure BB is the evidence it left behind (in this case it's cosmic microwave background radiation). I'm starting to think you have poor understanding of not only the scientific method but of the purpose of science in the first place. With such scientific theories as BB, the laws you are referring to only became present afterwards (to our current understanding, we don't know if something existed before BB). Ultimately you have to understand one thing. The universe is roughly 14 billion years old, the modern scientific method has been around for 500 years, so we've had 3.57142857 × 10^-8 years (0.0000000357 years) to study every 1 cosmic year. Or more simply, we've had 1 year, to student 28,000,000 cosmic years. Cut humanity some slack.
    "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter." ~ Denis Diderot

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    God is in my closet

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleDutch View Post
    God is in my closet
    Fuck I knew it!!!

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    See sexy why did u make this post u bitch of a son
    I am the God.

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    We're getting off topic. Praise be to Allah and his prophet Mohammed.
    "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter." ~ Denis Diderot

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    I guess I'm just not simple minded enough to accept evidence of what 'could be,' and for me that also includes the bulk of evolutionary theory. I suppose we're alike in the first part, but only I stick to it for the second part. I'm like how a judge is suppose to be, I need indisputable, incomprehensible, amounts of proof before considering some thing factual. I again think what we chose to believe is mostly an expression of our character.
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    Humans are 65% similar to bananas when you talk about genetics but that doesn't mean that we deprived down from them now does it?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by supernova2131 View Post
    Humans are 65% similar to bananas when you talk about genetics but that doesn't mean that we deprived down from them now does it?!
    Wow.
    Fail...............

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    Haha fail?!

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    Congrats no one ever does

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toymaker View Post
    I guess I'm just not simple minded enough to accept evidence of what 'could be,' and for me that also includes the bulk of evolutionary theory. I suppose we're alike in the first part, but only I stick to it for the second part. I'm like how a judge is suppose to be, I need indisputable, incomprehensible, amounts of proof before considering some thing factual. I again think what we chose to believe is mostly an expression of our character.
    I don't even know how to start. I'm debating whether I should just call you an idiot or not even bother.

    Here, some people can only learn through pretty pictures.

    Judgment Day: Intelligent Design on Trial | NOVA | PBS Video


    Thunderf00t has once again


    That's a picture of him at the end. Luls.

    DonExodus
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    Paroxysm, things were going good, don't ruin it and make me put you in time out. If you don't like that I don't think EITHER side has enough proof to win me over, don't cry about it, it simply means I take things seriously and haven't devoted enough time to thinking out my viewpoint yet...You're worse then religious zealots at pushing your 'obvious' opinions on people...
    Last edited by Toymaker; 06-24-2009 at 01:03 AM.

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