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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    It is completely related when America's constitution is meant to uphold the separation of church and state yet the official motto contradicts this. And don't say that nobody cares about a motto either, that's just a cowards excuse for not wanting to take action against something.
    I am up for separation between church and state, but I do not see this as church and state not being separated.
    It says "In God We Trust", it does not say "In The Christian God We Trust".
    That could be literally any god.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WalterWhite View Post
    It means "One from Many". Basically talking about How we formed a country our of many separate states. Also could mean in modern times how we are a country made up of all different cultures

    If Church and State truely were divided, there wouldn't be as much legal issues surrounding just letting anyone get married.

    You sir are smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haxforpax View Post

    I am up for separation between church and state, but I do not see this as church and state not being separated.
    It says "In God We Trust", it does not say "In The Christian God We Trust".
    That could be literally any god.
    God is associated with ANY religion. Non religious folks don't associate with any gods. That is the principle of religion. Separation of church and state is the separation of religion and the government, not just Christian churches.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave84311 View Post

    God is associated with ANY religion. Non religious folks don't associate with any gods. That is the principle of religion. Separation of church and state is the separation of religion and the government, not just Christian churches.
    Do you know why we have separation between church and state?
    We have it so this country does not become ruled by a certain church.
    If it is spread among all religions it can not be ruled by any churches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haxforpax View Post

    I am up for separation between church and state, but I do not see this as church and state not being separated.
    It says "In God We Trust", it does not say "In The Christian God We Trust".
    That could be literally any god.
    What about people who dont believe in a god, or believe in multiple gods or don't believe in deities but the paranormal. Saying it could be any god is disingenuous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post


    What about people who dont believe in a god, or believe in multiple gods or don't believe in deities but the paranormal. Saying it could be any god is disingenuous.
    I'm really just saying random shit.
    This is not debate fort, this is a thread about some new motto becoming this countries motto.



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    Quote Originally Posted by haxforpax View Post

    I am up for separation between church and state, but I do not see this as church and state not being separated.
    It says "In God We Trust", it does not say "In The Christian God We Trust".
    That could be literally any god.
    Quote Originally Posted by haxforpax View Post


    Do you know why we have separation between church and state?
    We have it so this country does not become ruled by a certain church.
    If it is spread among all religions it can not be ruled by any churches.
    PS: Respond to me on Skype right now.

    What it says is "We thank God for this country". I don't thank God for it, I thank the PEOPLE who fought and died for it. I dont trust God I trust PEOPLE, even if that trust is poorly placed.


    Quote Originally Posted by Howboutdat View Post



    You sir are smart.
    Funniest shit I've ever read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalterWhite View Post

    What it says is "We thank God for this country". I don't thank God for it, I thank the PEOPLE who fought and died for it. I dont trust God I trust PEOPLE, even if that trust is poorly placed.




    Funniest shit I've ever read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haxforpax View Post


    Do you know why we have separation between church and state?
    We have it so this country does not become ruled by a certain church.
    If it is spread among all religions it can not be ruled by any churches.
    PS: Respond to me on Skype right now.
    We have separation of church and state because religion should not influence law.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave84311 View Post

    We have separation of church and state because religion should not influence law.
    You could also turn it around saying that State should not influence Religion, sort of like the Nazi Regime.
    The ends justify the means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haxforpax View Post

    That is still unrelated.
    Changing a motto will not stop the people who cause things such as same sex marriage being illegal.



    Well, I was referring to the motto.
    I understand that attitude fucks over some things, but has nothing to do with a motto.
    Changing the motto is a start. Obviously its not the entire thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterFart View Post
    You could also turn it around saying that State should not influence Religion, sort of like the Nazi Regime.
    What? How did you come to that conclusion?

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    Was doing some reading after finding this petition... Apparently, this was already addressed in another petition, and the Obama administration declined to change it. Obviously, because it would be absolute suicide to do it politically. Congress voted something like 90%+ to reaffirm it last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killian View Post
    This is a petition to change the national motto from "In God We Trust" to "E pluribus unum."
    Signed, and thanked for posting

    Quote Originally Posted by haxforpax View Post
    Who fucking cares? It's just a motto.
    I wouldn't pay attention to it either way.
    Saying this to you one time and one time only (unless you decide to continue or do something of similar level)
    You're fucking stupid for saying that.
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    The problem is that we're people. People are shitty beings, you just gotta keep that in mind.
    "Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." - Richard Dawkins
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    Quote Originally Posted by 666HiddenMaster666 View Post


    Signed, and thanked for posting



    Saying this to you one time and one time only (unless you decide to continue or do something of similar level)
    You're fucking stupid for saying that.
    I was bored so I was posting random shit to flame.
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