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    Do not read unless you no longer need your mind

    This is absolutely insane, it will blow your mind.

    There is a race between a person and a turtle. The person is obviously a lot faster, so the turtle is given a 100m head start. The runner runs 10 times as fast as the turtle. When the race starts, the person sprints 100m, then he is at the position that the turtle was at the start. By the time he has ran this 100m, the turtle has ran 10m. He continues running and after 10m, he is at where the turtle was at the previous step, and by this time the turtle is 1m ahead. This distance between the runner and turtle continues to decrease by a factor of 10 every time the runner catches up to where the turtle was, and it continues infinitely. Does the runner ever pass the turtle? We know it does in real life, but how? If the runner does, he is completing an infinite number of actions in a finite time...?!?!?!?!
    Last edited by _corn_; 10-22-2013 at 05:10 AM.
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    None of your logic here makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skipsy View Post
    None of your logic here makes sense.
    Lol, it's a paradox that has been unsolved for over 2000 years. It does make sense.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes#Achilles_and_the_tortoise


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    >,>,<[>[>>>+>+<<<<-]>>>>[<<<<+>>>>-]<<<<[<-[>>+>+<<<-]>>>[<<<+>>>-]+<[>-<<->[-]]>[<<-[<<->>[-]]>>-]<<]>>>[<<<+>>>-]<<<<<+>]<.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _corn_ View Post


    Lol, it's a paradox that has been unsolved for over 2000 years. It does make sense.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes#Achilles_and_the_tortoise


    Should've just copy pasted it, didn't understand the explanation you posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _corn_ View Post


    Lol, it's a paradox that has been unsolved for over 2000 years. It does make sense.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes#Achilles_and_the_tortoise


    It's not a very good paradox. It's designed to create an impossible outcome by imposing an unreasonable rule on the pursuer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skipsy View Post


    Should've just copy pasted it, didn't understand the explanation you posted.
    it's not much different
    My Brainfuck division algorithm. Input of n7 means 110/55 (ascii values for n and 7):
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    >,>,<[>[>>>+>+<<<<-]>>>>[<<<<+>>>>-]<<<<[<-[>>+>+<<<-]>>>[<<<+>>>-]+<[>-<<->[-]]>[<<-[<<->>[-]]>>-]<<]>>>[<<<+>>>-]<<<<<+>]<.
    There are 10 types of people in the world; those who understand binary and those who don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post


    It's not a very good paradox. It's designed to create an impossible outcome by imposing an unreasonable rule on the pursuer.
    What is the unreasonable rule?
    My Brainfuck division algorithm. Input of n7 means 110/55 (ascii values for n and 7):
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    >,>,<[>[>>>+>+<<<<-]>>>>[<<<<+>>>>-]<<<<[<-[>>+>+<<<-]>>>[<<<+>>>-]+<[>-<<->[-]]>[<<-[<<->>[-]]>>-]<<]>>>[<<<+>>>-]<<<<<+>]<.
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    Yeah your explanation makes no sense. But its a cool thing to think about ^_^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Embrace. View Post
    Yeah your explanation makes no sense. But its a cool thing to think about ^_^
    lol it does so
    My Brainfuck division algorithm. Input of n7 means 110/55 (ascii values for n and 7):
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    >,>,<[>[>>>+>+<<<<-]>>>>[<<<<+>>>>-]<<<<[<-[>>+>+<<<-]>>>[<<<+>>>-]+<[>-<<->[-]]>[<<-[<<->>[-]]>>-]<<]>>>[<<<+>>>-]<<<<<+>]<.
    There are 10 types of people in the world; those who understand binary and those who don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _corn_ View Post


    What is the unreasonable rule?
    That in a race the pursuer must get progressively slower rather than maintaining a constant velocity. That isn't a race, it's just a fallacy used to set up a theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post


    That in a race the pursuer must get progressively slower rather than maintaining a constant velocity. That isn't a race, it's just a fallacy used to set up a theory.
    I don't see any rule saying the pursuer must get progressively slower. The pursuer and the turtle both run at a constant velocity, and the pursuer runs 10 times as fast as the turtle.
    It's not a fallacy, and no theory is being set up, this is a paradox.

    EDIT: I should have known better than to post this on here...
    Last edited by _corn_; 10-22-2013 at 05:08 AM.
    My Brainfuck division algorithm. Input of n7 means 110/55 (ascii values for n and 7):
    Code:
    >,>,<[>[>>>+>+<<<<-]>>>>[<<<<+>>>>-]<<<<[<-[>>+>+<<<-]>>>[<<<+>>>-]+<[>-<<->[-]]>[<<-[<<->>[-]]>>-]<<]>>>[<<<+>>>-]<<<<<+>]<.
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    Interesting post. Makes sense until the factors & stuff lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by _corn_ View Post


    I don't see any rule saying the pursuer must get progressively slower. The pursuer and the turtle both run at a constant velocity, and the pursuer runs 10 times as fast as the turtle.
    It's not a fallacy, and no theory is being set up, this is a paradox.

    EDIT: I should have known better than to post this on here...
    At a constant velocity the pursuer surpasses the turtle... I don't think you understand how physics or just plain logic works. If we were to look at this logically, it is a fallacy, if we were to look at this scientifically than it is a theory with a really bad example. The theory is infinite sequences in a finite period... You even said it in your first post /fdp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post


    At a constant velocity the pursuer surpasses the turtle... I don't think you understand how physics or just plain logic works. If we were to look at this logically, it is a fallacy, if we were to look at this scientifically than it is a theory with a really bad example. The theory is infinite sequences in a finite period... You even said it in your first post /fdp
    I know that the runner passes the turtle, I admitted it in my first post. I do understand how physics and logic works, obviously more so than you.

    This paradox, as I said before, has baffled the world's top mathematicians for over 2000 years, what makes you think you are smarter than them?

    If you actually try and understand the paradox, you will see what the paradox is about - and you actually tried to say the paradox is a fallacy with the main concept of the paradox. If the runner catches up with the turtle, it seems he must have completed an infinite number of steps in a finite time, which is impossible. That is the paradox.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AqworldThunder View Post
    LOL I know................

    THIS IS A BLOODY PARADOX NOT A SIMPLE PHYSICS QUESTION
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    My Brainfuck division algorithm. Input of n7 means 110/55 (ascii values for n and 7):
    Code:
    >,>,<[>[>>>+>+<<<<-]>>>>[<<<<+>>>>-]<<<<[<-[>>+>+<<<-]>>>[<<<+>>>-]+<[>-<<->[-]]>[<<-[<<->>[-]]>>-]<<]>>>[<<<+>>>-]<<<<<+>]<.
    There are 10 types of people in the world; those who understand binary and those who don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave84311
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