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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy View Post


    Calling someone a pussy, telling them that you have not tried weed, tells us that booze is "fun" and that you genuinely believe that people in general will drink responsibly.

    I would ask you if you're high, but of course you are not.
    It's a joke, i've been sur's best internet friend for a while.


    and who the hell would be able to genuinely believe that anyone could drink responsibly :/

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    Never tried any and I don't plan too. Alcohol is also on my not-to-do list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raow25 View Post
    It's a joke, i've been sur's best internet friend for a while.


    and who the hell would be able to genuinely believe that anyone could drink responsibly :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sur. View Post
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    sshhhhhh, noob.

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    alcohol is a drug
    cigarettes are a drug
    they both kill, they both damage our bodies, they can both damage the people around them, alcohol has a higher potential then cigs though, they can also cause addiction
    so why should other drugs be illegal?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    alcohol is a drug
    cigarettes are a drug
    they both kill, they both damage our bodies, they can both damage the people around them, alcohol has a higher potential then cigs though, they can also cause addiction
    so why should other drugs be illegal?
    If governments could/wanted to illegalise cigarettes and alcohol, they would've by now

    Alcohol, especially in Australia is a big sponsor of sporting and venues.
    We lose that, we lose sporting and venues.

    Cigarettes bring in a lot of revenue, helping to stabilise the economy.

    This could go for other drugs, but Governments (hopefully) have some care of the wellbeing of people, not legalising all drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sur. View Post
    If governments could/wanted to illegalise cigarettes and alcohol, they would've by now

    Alcohol, especially in Australia is a big sponsor of sporting and venues.
    We lose that, we lose sporting and venues.

    Cigarettes bring in a lot of revenue, helping to stabilise the economy.

    This could go for other drugs, but Governments (hopefully) have some care of the wellbeing of people, not legalising all drugs.
    if they really did care then they would slowly remove them over time, not allow advertisements for them ect ect
    alcohol was illegal in the US for a little while in the early 1900's
    if the goverment grew a pair and held on to that law then others would surely follow
    there would probably be many protests ect ect
    but once a new generation of people come, one where they're born into a world where alcohol is illegal, it won't matter as much to them
    in theory.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

    if they really did care then they would slowly remove them over time, not allow advertisements for them ect ect
    alcohol was illegal in the US for a little while in the early 1900's
    if the goverment grew a pair and held on to that law then others would surely follow
    there would probably be many protests ect ect
    but once a new generation of people come, one where they're born into a world where alcohol is illegal, it won't matter as much to them
    in theory.
    The thing is
    They pretend to care in order to get elected.
    That is why alcohol and cigarettes are legal.
    Too bring in money, but not to make it look like it's for that reason.
    Also, there will be many criminal issues in the banning of alcohol.

    Just like drug smuggling .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sur. View Post
    The thing is
    They pretend to care in order to get elected.
    That is why alcohol and cigarettes are legal.
    Too bring in money, but not to make it look like it's for that reason.
    Also, there will be many criminal issues in the banning of alcohol.

    Just like drug smuggling .
    there will always be people breaking the law, no matter what
    if anyone believes in a place where the law is followed by everyone then they're truly ignorant
    i'm aware that it would result into alcohol/cig smuggling
    but
    if you consider the amount of crimes where alcohol is involved (murder, DUI, rape, vandalism so on) i think that outweighs the smuggling problem
    it would probably/maybe make our borders more safe due to the increase of security while looking for drugs which could lead to an increase of finding other things such as guns ect

    also, smuggling alcohol would probably reduce the amount of people drinking, even if lots of it manages to get into countries, since its illegal you would have to be more careful drinking, thus resulting in less crimes involving someone being intoxicated
    so wouldn't that make smuggling sort of...good? in a weird way



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

    there will always be people breaking the law, no matter what
    if anyone believes in a place where the law is followed by everyone then they're truly ignorant
    i'm aware that it would result into alcohol/cig smuggling
    but
    if you consider the amount of crimes where alcohol is involved (murder, DUI, rape, vandalism so on) i think that outweighs the smuggling problem
    it would probably/maybe make our borders more safe due to the increase of security while looking for drugs which could lead to an increase of finding other things such as guns ect

    also, smuggling alcohol would probably reduce the amount of people drinking, even if lots of it manages to get into countries, since its illegal you would have to be more careful drinking, thus resulting in less crimes involving someone being intoxicated
    so wouldn't that make smuggling sort of...good? in a weird way

    This is actually correct, amazing point of view.
    So i guess it'll stop crime more than it will make, there's a pro.

    The con is still the money they bring in.
    If some other businesses, another great idea, something that can bring money in, that will replace alcohol and cigarette funds (good luck), then they might considering making it illegal.

    It's an issue that needs to be solved,
    i'd prefer all drugs be illegal, except for medical reasons.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sur. View Post
    This is actually correct, amazing point of view.
    So i guess it'll stop crime more than it will make, there's a pro.

    The con is still the money they bring in.
    If some other businesses, another great idea, something that can bring money in, that will replace alcohol and cigarette funds (good luck), then they might considering making it illegal.

    It's an issue that needs to be solved,
    i'd prefer all drugs be illegal, except for medical reasons.
    well since so many people smoke and drink, i'd say ~80% of all people, this is just pulled straight out of the air so it's probably off by alot but anyways, if we somehow managed to make a slow decrease in sales and availability of the the products to the general population then things would *hopefully* balance out (economy wise and people adjusting to the change)

    otherwise, again just a theory, there is a HUGE cash flow going towards cigs and alcohol
    removing them means the flow of money will end up somewhere else, it won't simply vanish into thin air, people spend money on what they want
    when something is removed, they find something else that will take it's place, or they will simply put more money into everyday needs such as food and water
    so, in theory, it would give an overall boost to the economy
    i dont study economics and stuff so i don't know if it would actually be like that



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

    well since so many people smoke and drink, i'd say ~80% of all people, this is just pulled straight out of the air so it's probably off by alot but anyways, if we somehow managed to make a slow decrease in sales and availability of the the products to the general population then things would *hopefully* balance out (economy wise and people adjusting to the change)

    otherwise, again just a theory, there is a HUGE cash flow going towards cigs and alcohol
    removing them means the flow of money will end up somewhere else, it won't simply vanish into thin air, people spend money on what they want
    when something is removed, they find something else that will take it's place, or they will simply put more money into everyday needs such as food and water
    so, in theory, it would give an overall boost to the economy
    i dont study economics and stuff so i don't know if it would actually be like that
    The top paragraph could work, it would be hard
    The bottom, won't work and doesn't make sense.

    It's a circular flow of income, but on an international basis.
    If someone buys a beer in America, that's made in America, the business makes profit, economy, not really

    Importing and exporting is the major factor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sur. View Post
    The top paragraph could work, it would be hard
    The bottom, won't work and doesn't make sense.

    It's a circular flow of income, but on an international basis.
    If someone buys a beer in America, that's made in America, the business makes profit, economy, not really

    Importing and exporting is the major factor
    mm, though so, have a limited understanding of economics since i really have no interest in it
    then i guess it would be a benefit for all the other companies that don't sell alcohol or cigs?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

    mm, though so, have a limited understanding of economics since i really have no interest in it
    then i guess it would be a benefit for all the other companies that don't sell alcohol or cigs?
    I really don't see how
    It could be, but in a minor scale.


    But the problem here is the economy, not the businesses, countries make profits by exporting these items.
    The world is not about people anymore, but about money.
    Unless some alternative is created which the world agrees to, I highly doubt these drugs will EVER be illegalised.
    Sadly

    If one country does it, and others dont, they will fall.
    If 90 countries do it, but the others don't, the other countries won't see it fair, then disban.
    it's a complex complex issue.

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