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    The Trolley Problem - Philosophical Dilemmas #1

    Hey MPGH,


    I'm just curious about what people would do in situations, so i'm going to start making a series of threads like @Aborted did, but mindfucking people in a different sense.


    The Trolley Problem


    This will be set into two spoilers, two versions.
    Do one at a time, and attempt to do the questions before reading what others have posted

     



    The trolley is rolling down a track, and you are standing near a lever to change tracks for the trolley.
    If you don't move the lever, it will certainly kill 5 people and save one, but if you do, you will save 5 but kill one.
    Would you pull the lever





    Now remember your answer for version one, and now do version two

     


    Imagine you are standing behind FatMan on a bridge, and you see a trolley coming down the track and will certainly kill 5 people, unless, you push with your own hands, FatMan off the bridge, stopping the trolley and saving 5, but his life will end for sure.
    Will you push him?


    Now post your answers, and if you want, why they differed/stayed the same for you
    Enjoy!
    Last edited by Sur.; 02-05-2014 at 02:49 AM.

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    Do nothing and laugh.
    I am the seer in the dark,
    the vagabond of yore,
    valediction.
    I am the sum of all your parts,
    and proprietor of all.
    A miasma,
    the conclusion,
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    my form now vivid,
    as torpor sets and blood grows tepid.
    With every ounce of flesh now offered,
    I hold your corpse within my coffers.
    Knitted cells now split asunder,
    stand alongside me brother.
    Take your place amongst my Owsla,
    we march at dawn now and forever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post
    Do nothing and laugh.
    Welp, that's the first time i've ever heard that answer.
    You're not serious, are you?

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    Pull the lever while the train is halfway over the switch, causing it to crash (Unless it's too hard too pull lol)
    otherwise, I'd kill the 2 single guys

    SOUNDCLOUD



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    1.
    easy solution to saving all 6
    there is no mention of them being tied down to the tracks, nor can you see them tied down, only tied around their body.
    therefor i would switch the track so that it came in the direction of the single person, then simply pick him up since the average weight of a person is roughly 70 kgish which an average person can manage

    2.
    yes
    one dying to save 5 is worth it, IMO
    but
    this is a simple question, i know nothing of the people on the tracks, and nothing of the "fatman"
    Last edited by Ghost; 02-05-2014 at 02:46 AM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    1.
    easy solution to saving all 6
    there is no mention of them being tied down to the tracks, nor can you see them tied down, only tied around their body.
    therefor i would switch the track so that it came in the direction of the single person, then simply pick him up since the average weight of a person is roughly 70 kgish which an average person can manage

    2.
    yes
    <removed>

    I actually realised this is a good response.
    Thank you
    Last edited by Sur.; 02-05-2014 at 02:49 AM.

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    erase that line
    Support me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sur. View Post
    Let's assume they're tied up, i'll edit the thread

    well then i would attempt to pull the lever half way, derailing the train
    if thats not an option, then i'd pull it all the way, thus saving 5 and losing 1



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post


    well then i would attempt to pull the lever half way, derailing the train
    if thats not an option, then i'd pull it all the way, thus saving 5 and losing 1

    I edited that post

    But it's good to see how you think outside of the box, you think in a good way my friend.
    Also, thanks for the realistic answer as well!

    But this thread is about peoples mentality and my post should be excused .

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    #1 - I'd throw the OP in front of the trolley. They'll see a sheep and stop the trolley to fuck it. While that's happening I'll go up to the victims and laugh in their faces, proceed to take a piss on them, and then walk away.

    #2 - I'd throw the OP in front of the volley with the fat man. Then I'd repeat the ending of #1.

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    Depends, how fast is the son of a bitch going? I know damn well if I pushed a fat guy in front of it while it is maxing at 120MPH, they will all die.
    I like that outcome.

    If @Ghost is right and they are not tied down, I am putting the one alone with the rest, for 3 reasons:

    1. He does not deserve to die alone, or be the only one alive. He wants to be with his friends.
    2. Those 6 are not even tied to the railroad tracks, so they want to die.
    3. If that 7th guy controlling the trolley's tracks didn't notice it coming, he is shit and should have laid his head on the tracks in front of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exorcism View Post
    Depends, how fast is the son of a bitch going? I know damn well if I pushed a fat guy in front of it while it is maxing at 120MPH, they will all die.
    I like that outcome.

    If @Ghost is right and they are not tied down, I am putting the one alone with the rest, for 3 reasons:

    1. He does not deserve to die alone, or be the only one alive. He wants to be with his friends.
    2. Those 6 are not even tied to the railroad tracks, so they want to die.
    3. If that 7th guy controlling the trolley's tracks didn't notice it coming, he is shit and should have laid his head on the tracks in front of them.

    You are the 7th person, and you just stumbled to see it coming, let's hypothetically say they're working on the track and dont see it coming, what would you do then.
    And you are mute.
    And you have to change the tracks
    and you cant save one group

    Also, sometimes people have to die to save others.
    That's just how life is.
    It's a track with hurdles.

    Thanks for your answer

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    1.I would let the 5 people die and then i would let the guy tied until he starves to death.
    2.I would let the 5 people die then i would push the fatso for being unhealthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sur. View Post
    You are the 7th person, and you just stumbled to see it coming, let's hypothetically say they're working on the track and dont see it coming, what would you do then.
    And you are mute.
    And you have to change the tracks
    and you cant save one group

    Also, sometimes people have to die to save others.
    That's just how life is.
    It's a track with hurdles.

    Thanks for your answer
    I would be impressed that we have the technology to create a trolley that is virtually silent. That is some cool shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exorcism View Post


    I would be impressed that we have the technology to create a trolley that is virtually silent. That is some cool shit.
    Easily distracted by things that don't make sense, you're not a very gullible person.
    Though I did say hypothetically .

    Quote Originally Posted by maximon555 View Post
    1.I would let the 5 people die and then i would let the guy tied until he starves to death.
    2.I would let the 5 people die then i would push the fatso for being unhealthy.
    Everyone has an opinion.

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