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    Suicide: Easy way out?

    Hello guys, well I know someone who considered suicide and is still thinking of it, No it's not me, I'm probably abnormally more happy then others. It's Family-related, I thought ,before the person told me she thought about it before, suicide is rather cowardly, because you leave the world without or almost without pain, and your family and friends are left behind with alot of pain and sadness. But now I really don't know what to think anymore, it's really strange thinking of the emptiness and the pain I would have if the person would do it. So my question is, is suicide an easy way out and you're leaving alot of people with pain or is it just because the person can't live properly anymore.
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    No matter how negative things may be in life, there will always be a positive side towards it.
    There is no need to suicide. You don't simply end problems by ending yourself.
    You solve problems and try to find a better solution.
    And yes, if you suicide, you are irresponsible.
    You are leaving everyone and everything behind.


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    The emptiness and sadness they feel, enough to consider and or do it, is probably not even comparable to what friends and family will feel.
    What I mean is, they suffer more than you will. Most likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy View Post
    The emptiness and sadness they feel, enough to consider and or do it, is probably not even comparable to what friends and family will feel.
    What I mean is, they suffer more than you will. Most likely.
    The thing is, the 'pain' the person expierences is nothing against for example people with serious depression. That makes me ,yeah I don't know how to call it, angry even more.

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    If you're gonna kill yourself, just fucking do it.
    If you talk about it with others then you are just seeking attention.

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    I once contemplated suicide myself. More than once actually.

    Let me tell you, suicide is never easy. Holding that gun, these pills, or standing on top of that building withholds such a huge mix of pure emotions that it's overwhelming.

    Suicide is also an extremely selfish way to go. Killing one's self just because you have had it with the world and not thinking about all the people who have once cared for you. All the people who have gone through alot more misfortunes than you to make YOUR life happy see their seed gone and for what reason?

    There is no excuse for losing hope, we are humans. We must be strong and rise above all the bullshit society gives you.

    I'm sorry but I find it very curious at all these kids that commit suicide because of bullying and what not. I think they don't have a hard enough mentality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by √ince View Post
    The thing is, the 'pain' the person expierences is nothing against for example people with serious depression. That makes me ,yeah I don't know how to call it, angry even more.
    Define serious depression.
    You can't really say that someone elses feelings are invalid, their feelings differ from everyone elses.
    We are brought up to believe that everyone is unique.

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    If you're gonna kill yourself, just fucking do it.
    If you talk about it with others then you are just seeking attention.
    I'm just going to plop in here and give you another way to look at it.
    If someone says they are going to it's not merely because they want attention, normally.
    It's because they want someone to show them that life isn't such a fucking horrible cosmic joke, show them that there's still something worth living for.
    What they are showing outwards is a cry for help, their last ounce of hope fading away slowly.
    All they really want is some support. Normally.

    There's still the drama-queers though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Johnson View Post
    Killing one's self just because you have had it with the world and not thinking about all the people who have once cared for you.
    Someone forcing a tortured soul to suffer in agony because THEY don't want them to go seems pretty damn selfish to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post

    Someone forcing a tortured soul to suffer in agony because THEY don't want them to go seems pretty damn selfish to me.
    Another way to look at it, but she knows she is needed by lots of people. And the 'problem' is nothing compared to someone else's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Johnson View Post
    I once contemplated suicide myself. More than once actually.

    Let me tell you, suicide is never easy. Holding that gun, these pills, or standing on top of that building withholds such a huge mix of pure emotions that it's overwhelming.

    Suicide is also an extremely selfish way to go. Killing one's self just because you have had it with the world and not thinking about all the people who have once cared for you. All the people who have gone through alot more misfortunes than you to make YOUR life happy see their seed gone and for what reason?

    There is no excuse for losing hope, we are humans. We must be strong and rise above all the bullshit society gives you.

    I'm sorry but I find it very curious at all these kids that commit suicide because of bullying and what not. I think they don't have a hard enough mentality.
    Just what I think, If she would do it, I'm going to go into a serious depression and she would be gone without a depression or what ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor Phillips View Post
    If you're gonna kill yourself, just fucking do it.
    If you talk about it with others then you are just seeking attention.
    She's my fucking family? If she wouldn'v said it, she probably woudln't be here anymore. If everybody thinks like you we would be down about 100 million people. Yeah seeking attention if you write about it on social media but not if you talk about it with your family? If you don't talk about, you're more likely to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy View Post


    Define serious depression.
    You can't really say that someone elses feelings are invalid, their feelings differ from everyone elses.
    We are brought up to believe that everyone is unique.

    There's still the drama-queers though.
    Can't, I'm limited in my English grammar to do so. I know it's different but I just can't see someone killing themselves over the problem she's having.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post

    Someone forcing a tortured soul to suffer in agony because THEY don't want them to go seems pretty damn selfish to me.
    Yeah but what type of agony are we talking about here?

    Is it a teenager suiciding because he's getting bullied at school?

    Or is it a Japanese kamikazee?

    This is why suicide is such a touchy subject because there's a million different scenarios.

    "Religions are, by definition, metaphors, after all: God is a dream, a hope, a woman, an ironist, a father, a city, a house of many rooms, a watchmaker who left his prize chronometer in the desert, someone who loves you—even, perhaps, against all evidence, a celestial being whose only interest is to make sure your football team, army, business, or marriage thrives, prospers, and triumphs over all opposition. Religions are places to stand and look and act, vantage points from which to view the world. So none of this is happening. Such things could not occur. Never a word of it is literally true.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by √ince View Post
    Can't, I'm limited in my English grammar to do so. I know it's different but I just can't see someone killing themselves over the problem she's having.
    If you feel comfortable enough to elaborate on the problem I'm always here to help.
    I just want to know if she's really in danger of doing it.
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    valediction.
    Synapses fray,
    my form now vivid,
    as torpor sets and blood grows tepid.
    With every ounce of flesh now offered,
    I hold your corpse within my coffers.
    Knitted cells now split asunder,
    stand alongside me brother.
    Take your place amongst my Owsla,
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    Quote Originally Posted by √ince View Post
    Another way to look at it, but she knows she is needed by lots of people. And the 'problem' is nothing compared to someone else's.
    Nothing compared to others issues. I see.
    But here's the thing, something that's hard for someone might be easy for someone else.
    This someone might find their issue to be the most horrible thing in the world, feelings.


    Quote Originally Posted by √ince View Post
    Can't, I'm limited in my English grammar to do so. I know it's different but I just can't see someone killing themselves over the problem she's having.
    So, make her feel better, show her it's not such a horrible life.
    I don't know what the problem is, but (this is a rare occurrence) you're probably bright enough to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Johnson View Post


    Yeah but what type of agony are we talking about here?

    Is it a teenager suiciding because he's getting bullied at school?

    Or is it a Japanese kamikazee?

    This is why suicide is such a touchy subject because there's a million different scenarios.
    No honor or ritual suicides, I'm talking blowing out your fucking skull because you can't stand living.
    Option A could fall under that umbrella.
    I am the seer in the dark,
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    valediction.
    I am the sum of all your parts,
    and proprietor of all.
    A miasma,
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    blackmonger of Inlé,
    valediction.
    Synapses fray,
    my form now vivid,
    as torpor sets and blood grows tepid.
    With every ounce of flesh now offered,
    I hold your corpse within my coffers.
    Knitted cells now split asunder,
    stand alongside me brother.
    Take your place amongst my Owsla,
    we march at dawn now and forever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post

    If you feel comfortable enough to elaborate on the problem I'm always here to help.
    I just want to know if she's really in danger of doing it.
    She is, I know she is. Last week she went away for a couple of hours. She sented my a text saying: "I'll be there in 30 minutes". An hour later I get a text from someone saying if I could call her because she was sending weird texts and might be in danger. I called her and she didn't pick up. Called 5 times, didn't pick up. The feeling I had is indescribably, I fucking wanted to know where she was and if she was ok. An hour of calling her and didn't recieving any sort of life, Someone knocks on the door. It was her and she just said: "My phone fell and I couldn't pick up" Her phone was just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy View Post


    Nothing compared to others issues. I see.
    But here's the thing, something that's hard for someone might be easy for someone else.
    This someone might find their issue to be the most horrible thing in the world, feelings.
    So, make her feel better, show her it's not such a horrible life.
    I don't know what the problem is, but (this is a rare occurrence) you're probably bright enough to do so.
    I did, but she seems to ignore it or seems to not see it. It's going better but I'm afraid. I'm calling her everyday if I'm not home. But I don't think I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post

    No honor or ritual suicides, I'm talking blowing out your fucking skull because you can't stand living.
    Option A could fall under that umbrella.
    I guess you're right...

    I just don't feel it's the right thing to do, you know.

    Giving up...

    I mean I've been raised not to give up even in a game of soccer. But then giving up your own life.

    I guess it's just a matter of how much you value life. How much you love life and the people that are around you. But then again, the value of life is gone when emotion isn't there.

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