ok, now i believe that TopBase requires the directx sdk from either june or jan of 2010. ive messed with gellins source in the past, but that was on my desktop before it said "fuck you im going to the spa and coming back a brand new person" (in other words ive had to reformat). i guess what my question is is since with each new version things are updated aka changed, would i need to (and this is my assumption) have the same version that it was built on or can i use any version so long as its more recent than the august 2007 version, which i believe was what was used?