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    Atheism is a religion.

    Short version: Teacher: Atheism is religion
    Students: Atheism is not religion

    So, I got into a debate during class with my teacher and some other classmates about atheism(mainly in order to skip learning about shit I get bored at since they're too easy).

    My teacher said that Atheism is a religion, as quote from what he said:
    Religion is "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs".

    If you believe a God caused it, it's a religion. If you believe fuit caused it, it's a religion. If you believe nothing all-powerful caused it, it's still a religion. Nothing will change that.

    However, me and my classmates said:
    Atheism is the lack of belief in deities. There is not "set beliefs". Just a lack of. Just because something is atheist, it doesn't automatically make them evolutionists either. Religion is the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or a set of beliefs concerning the origin AND purpose of the universe. Religion needs be a set of beliefs. Atheism is the lack of belief. Therefore, Atheism is not a religion.

    What's your thoughts? Just need something to say "AHAHHAHAHA I BEAT YOU" to my teacher.

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    Religion-something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

    You can make anything religious.
    Doesn't have to be the belief of a Divine creator or creators.

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    Atheism, in a broad sense, is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.

    Tell you teacher that he is stupid.

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    Atheism is a belief, not a religion.

    tell your teacher to learn the difference.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    Atheism is a belief, not a religion.

    tell your teacher to learn the difference.
    Gnostic atheism is a belief.
    "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter." ~ Denis Diderot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    Gnostic atheism is a belief.
    well any type of atheism i would argue is a belief.

    Unless there is an atheistic belief that is not held by living things?


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    Atheism in and of itself cannot be a religion, although there can be an atheistic religion.
    Last edited by tdct; 10-13-2010 at 09:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    well any type of atheism i would argue is a belief.

    Unless there is an atheistic belief that is not held by living things?
    By what merit is atheism a religion? I can understand you arguing that people who claim there are no gods have a belief but to claim that not believing is somehow is a belief is not only platitudinous and inane but completely renders the word belief meaningless.
    "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter." ~ Denis Diderot

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    Like conforming to non-conformity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    By what merit is atheism a religion? I can understand you arguing that people who claim there are no gods have a belief but to claim that not believing is somehow is a belief is not only platitudinous and inane but completely renders the word belief meaningless.
    If you believe it, it is a belief.

    Uh i don't think its a religion in any sense though, just to be clear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    If you believe it, it is a belief.

    Uh i don't think its a religion in any sense though, just to be clear.
    I guess I agree with what your saying in the general sense. Like if I were to say I believe that there are no deities. Then that in a sense is a belief, but not in a religious sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    If you believe it, it is a belief.

    Uh i don't think its a religion in any sense though, just to be clear.
    Right its not religion, its you view.
    your teacher is wierd

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    The bottom line is you can turn anything into a religion.
    Somebody could make a Goldfish their God if they wanted..
    write up their own beliefs on how they should worship it,
    slap a fancy name on it, and call it a religion.
    If Atheists had a group they attended,
    and they had set guidelines that they followed,
    or practice within this group, they can consider it their Religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Bawls View Post
    The bottom line is you can turn anything into a religion.
    Somebody could make a Goldfish their God if they wanted..
    write up their own beliefs on how they should worship it,
    slap a fancy name on it, and call it a religion.
    If Atheists had a group they attended,
    and they had set guidelines that they followed,
    or practice within this group, they can consider it their Religion.
    Wow, you reminded me of the perfect example, if you want a wild laugh, search the pastafarian chuch sometime, it's actually the religion I'm a member of, I'm completly devoted to the flying spaghetti monster, he is ever loving and ever delicious /
    lol pic time
    Last edited by tdct; 10-14-2010 at 08:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdct View Post


    Wow, you reminded me of the perfect example, if you want a wild laugh, search the pastafarian chuch sometime, it's actually the religion I'm a member of, I'm completly devoted to the flying spaghetti monster, he is ever loving and ever delicious /
    lol pic time


    Wow, you reminded me of the perfect example, if you want a wild laugh, search stfu sometime, it's actually the religion I'm a member of, I'm completly devoted to you shutting up, its really just too easy /
    lol pic time


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