Beliefs are beliefs,Endrit believes in what he thinks is right,so do I,so do you,so does everyone.Though what someone believes in can be manipulated to anothers own goals,which is what I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Born To Die
Beliefs are beliefs,Endrit believes in what he thinks is right,so do I,so do you,so does everyone.Though what someone believes in can be manipulated to anothers own goals,which is what I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Born To Die
It doesn't necissarily have to make you correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by EndRiT
But it also doesn't mean that you're incorrect, becacuse there's no way to prove you didn't see it.
It's up to me to believe it or not.
But Endrit says he doesn't believe, but that he knows. That's illogical, because there's no way to know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by argusomega1
Let me break it down for you, first of all atheism isn't the "belief there is no god", atheism is the rejection of theism because it is unsupported. Most atheists don't claim to know there is no god, nor believe there is no God. Most atheists are agnostic atheist in the sense that they do not accept the claim "God exists" but neither do they accept the claim that "God doesn't exists". You won't find me saying "I know there is no God". Then there are gnostic atheists, sometimes I'm in this category, other times I'm not it all comes down to scope and degree. With respect to a "God" I'm an agnostic atheist, when it comes to specific Gods like Yahweh or Allah I'm a gnostic atheist because I know those Gods do not exist because they are defined in logically contradictory terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Born To Die
Having said this I'm not posting any more unless this is moved to the debate section, sorry OP for ruining a perfectly good thread.
But he believes that God cannot exist,so that is his belief,you believe Chaos is the domineering factor of our lifes,which is your belief,my belief is one that I only believe what can be proven through science.Quote:
Originally Posted by Born To Die
Thanks for your explanation, Paroxysm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paroxysm
But does this mean Atheism is a religion, or is it not?
/Request move to the debate section.
Now you have just lost.
Christians will always say something like that, no matter how impossible the situation. Think LOGICALLY for a second, we both know dogs can't fly.
Yet you are saying that I could be correct?
You are going against your own knowledge, your own feelings.
Athiesm believes in something,so anything that people believe in and follow a guise of rules that the religon proposes is,a religon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Born To Die
Why are we talking about Bertrand Russells theory all of a sudden?Quote:
Originally Posted by EndRiT
The sub-group of atheists that claim to know "there is no God" is so small that defining atheism as a religion would be egregious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Born To Die
It was on-topic. Who cares whos theory it is?
Because that is how man works,we create something that we see can be used to our own gain,so we use it to survive(not the case here)Quote:
Originally Posted by Born To Die
Its called the debate section. I wish more people would use it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dakillas2
The concept of God is flawed.
Believing in something nearly unexplainable (there are some facts, redshift etc but mostly theories) such as the Big Bang is far more logical than believing in something that has absolutely logical grounds.
Why complicate things? Surely if there was a God, we wouldn't be debating if he existed or not.
if u actually read the bible, it states that eve was thrown out of the garden and god made Adam a new wife.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anderson Silva
There is a God. A Goddess, to be exact.Quote:
Originally Posted by EndRiT
His name is Eris. The Goddess of chaos. That's why we are debating.
Everything is chaos.
Order is just the prevailing form of chaos.