cncc (11-08-2021)
never faxed, never will. Why vac if it has the same effects while you're not vacinated?
and oh yeah rich get richer and poor believe every nonsense what the media is tricking in their head.
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Not gonna lie, it's embarrassing to be part of human race where its all about "me, me, me, me and media this media that" but none gives a single fuck in the world about disabled people, people who have a weaker immune system, list goes on and on and on.. Why the fuck did you not have issue when you got vaccinated in your first grade?
And believe media? @Tr1ckster -- I went to my fucking doctor and asked about it, and SHE made a suggestion to do it, that had nothing to do with media, was I skeptical? For sure, but I rather do a favor and protect those who have a weaker immune system / other instead of sitting on the internet / twitter / facebook and cry like a fucking entitled bitch about how shit can be tracked, welcome to the new world, we're already tracked 24/7
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Barely is not none and we have seen just how easily transmissible this virus is. Aside from that, it's only beneficial for you.
Also, vaccine mandates are not new. The reason they're not required when travelling is that previous viruses were either eradicated or left in a weakened state, causing them to no longer be a concern. It's gonna be quite a while still before we get to that with COVID. Plus, most schools don't let you attend if you don't have the required immunizations. It's nothing new, just some tin foil hat conspiracy idiots.
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I'll bite
With your hypothesis of the vaccine being a way for the government to easily identify us and/or obey laws it somewhat implies that the majority of countries in the world thought of doing this at the same time, unless you're only referring to your own country.
Either way, that shit would leak in a heartbeat if it was true, people have tooted their whistles for a lot less.
It makes sense that a lot of people that are infected/dead have been vaccinated as its been stated that the vaccine doesn't guarantee immunity towards the virus, there's mutations such as the delta variant that it's less effective against, people with weakened autoimmune system etc. and if 90% of your population has been vaccinated... It doesn't take that much brainpower to understand
Besides, you're most likely already well identified by the government, not to mention easily tracked
I assume you have a cell phone? Credit card? Don't live in a third world country so stores have CCTV? I.D/Drivers license/Passport?
What does the government gain that it doesn't already have if this was true?
EDIT: forgot to comment on the obey laws thing
If any government really wanted you to follow a law, they'd simply use force or lock you up, just look in a history book
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Ah, the me calling y'all entitled must've triggered this type of response, interesting... It's funny how you specifically were focusing on that, not everything else that I said, where I said media didn't influence my decision to take the vaccine, it was my medical care that influences to take the vaccine in case I wanna get a job, I want to live semi-normal life, a someone who is considered a high risk, but rather than talk about that, you point out how I called people fucking entitled
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That's the thing. In my country, an event of 200-500 people does not have to wear masks if they have covid passes; but they just said 3 days ago the vaccination doesn't prevent you from spreading?! It's a big clown show.
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I see where you are going and I follow you. I also believe the Covid vaccination has nothing to do with obedience or following the laws. I'm not a conspiracist.
But some choices and laws put out by the government are just so stupid as if they are testing how far they can push our buttons.
Can't go to a cafe after 12h but you can sit infront of it with circles of 8 people?
You can't run around without a mask but as soon as you sit down in a crowded cafe where you're literally on top of each other you can take it off, you're safe.
You can't invite more than 4 people at home but you can have gatherings of 50 people in a small hired location.
Stand in row keeping 1.5m distance between everyone at an airport but as soon as you get in a plane you're stacked together in a badly ventilated cabin.
It's those kind of rediculous stupid rules that really make me doubt the motives.
It's said multiple times vaccination does not prevent you from spreading nor receiving, the vaccination makes the symptoms 'possibly' less severe so more beds are available in the hospitals.
But if it doesn't stop you from spreading or receiving, why pretend people with a covid pass are less of a risk to others?
Denmark got rid of the rediculous vaccination requirements and covid passes and everything related to Covid and they're doing absolutely fine; because they realise none of those charades are going to make a difference.
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The doctor also advised my wife to take an experimental radiotherapie treatment for possible tumor risks that only half the chance of you getting a tumor on a specific spot but can risk higher chance of cancer cells all over your body.
It depends on which doctor you're going to, some want you to heal, some don't care and need people for their programs.
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It's not about being followed or tracked by the government, I don't think that's the issue here. It's having an untested, unproven vaccination developed in a record time that actually doesn't do anything yet is forced on everyone.
Also: the biggest PoS in the world, Macron, is one of the biggest shareholders of the vaccinations.. Can't tell me all the politicians jumped on the vaccination train and cashed out big time on a big joke.
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Indoor ventilation is not comparable to being outdoors. Also, airplanes are actually really well ventilated. It's also difficult to stay completely distanced in some situations, but in those situations masks are still required to help prevent transmission.
What you said about vaccination is also misleading. Yes you can still get COVID and yes you can still spread it. But your chances of getting it are far lower. You can't spread a virus you don't have? Or a virus that clears your body very quickly because of vaccine immunization.
Another thing, Denmark has had over 70% vaccination for a few months now. It's a pretty good threshold for them. Most places are following the same after reaching 70-80% vaccination rates in their populations. Denmark isn't doing anything wild or radical lol.
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The doctor also advised my wife to take an experimental radiotherapie treatment for possible tumor risks that only half the chance of you getting a tumor on a specific spot but can risk higher chance of cancer cells all over your body.
It depends on which doctor you're going to, some want you to heal, some don't care and need people for their programs.
I went to see a family psychiatrists who cares about my well being (she probably cares more compare to my old family psychiatrist), and she recommended it due to the value of being high risk, so I did what I had to be done, and to also help those who have immune inefficiency, doesn't take a fucking arm to save other people around the world who may also have immune inefficiency, it's sad that how many people are sadists and only care about themselves-- my mum is a high risk individual, and I did it for her too, and she's scared of the vaccination due to not knowing what can it do to her (blame that on fucktards who spread misinformation like it's their fucking job)-- we would already be living normalized life if it weren't for those brain dead fucks who don't vaccinate, don't wear masks and pretend that it's all fake when statistics and numbers of dead been accumulated over the 1-2 years.
I got called an idiot for wanting for the better, wanting to save other people, especially those who have immune deformities/ineffective.
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Flengo kind of already addressed this, but it's simple trade-offs. You take on more risk of spreading infection but you get to eat and drink with your friends/family at a restaurant. I've been to a sit down restaurant like twice this entire pandemic and both times, the servers were always masked up because they had no reason to take it off whereas I the customer do.
Are you talking about Emmanuel Macron? What company is he a large shareholder for? Pfizer? Moderna? AstraZeneca? J&J? I personally own Pfizer stock and owned Moderna stock. Moderna stock was an easy peasy buy once there was news that they released a mRNA covid vaccine that was very effective and was given emergency authorization. Their revenues and profit numbers jumped through the roof and their stock price soared. Anyone that did basic research and liked to gamble a bit of money easily profited off of that trade. Like all of these are public companies that anyone can invest it, not like some shadow private companies.
The vaccines have been tested through all 3 required clinical human trials that any other medication is forced to go through (if you don't know how medical drug trials work, I recommend googling it to understand the process). People complain about absurd drug prices but usually absurd drug prices are how pharmaceutical basically make back their money on failed drugs that didn't get through clinical trials. If you don't know, it typically costs 1-3 BILLION dollars with a B to bring a drug to market (development, testing, approval, etc). During the Covid pandemic, the US government gave the NIH like nearly 5 billion dollars to aid in covid treatment research. The government then worked with/helped fund these companies so that money wouldn't be a problem in their research like it usually is. It's "rushed" in that money was no longer a problem.
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I got covid but had very mild symptoms so I poke fun at my right wing buddies about how I'm genetically superior to them.
Reality, I got vaccinated and had a booster shot. They didn't so they had to deal with full blown covid symptoms.
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I can literally expose my whole goverment this whole 1,5 years. They made straight up lies to the people and people like you still believe in this. I have no problem go a head take your vaccination but don't come with the non-sense about "Get vaccinated and stop spreading the virus". I don't know which country you live in but my country is a shit-show.
My government promised us there will be no covid-passport but now what you see? I can't even enter a local restaurant without a QR code. Wdym go ahead and take the vaccination? Did you forget what happend in US? They promised people for an discount if you vaccinate yourself. Literally like puppets ready to be sold and setting up people against eachother. In what world is a vaccination against a danger virus free? All the shit it came with. Did we forget any other sickness?
Just be freaking ready for the new agenda.
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