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    Daaaauuuum. Self-defence or murder?

    "US man fatally shoots masked teen outside neighbour's home, learns it's his son"

    U.S. man fatally shoots masked teen, learns it's his son | CTV News
    Popular teacher fatally shoots masked teen outside neighbour's home, discovers it was his son
    US man fatally shoots masked teen outside neighbour's home, learns it's his son - Yahoo! News Canada

    I can't find it on CBC\CNN, but there are many sources if you look around.

    Srsly, does this go down as self-defence or murder? I've always disagreed with the law which permits home-owners to kill 'invaders' (I don't believe one person should be judge jury and execitioner [another thing I disagree with.])



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    Murder.

    If the kid is going into a neighbors house you have no right to shoot them but warn them and call 911.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgessjr View Post
    Murder.

    If the kid is going into a neighbors house you have no right to shoot them but warn them and call 911.
    I agree. However, that isn't what the USA laws state.

    In Canada, you aren't allowed to kill invaders unless you are in immediate threat for your life. (I.e you can't shoot them for stealing all your shit.) You are allowed to do things like a citizens arrest though (but those are actually very difficult to do legally. You have to tell them they are under citizens arrest, explain why etc...)

    To rephrase the question, in this particular state and country, do you think this is classified as murder.



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    Wait read more.

    Why would the teen be wearing a mask and shit while holding knife outside his own auntie house?

    It is self defense because his son ran at him with a knife Dafuq?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgessjr View Post
    Murder.

    If the kid is going into a neighbors house you have no right to shoot them but warn them and call 911.
    US Laws state that if someone's on your property you have the right to "defend" it. Meaning; kill them.

    At least that's what I thought it was. Correct me if I'm wrong.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgessjr View Post
    Wait read more.

    Why would the teen be wearing a mask and shit while holding knife outside his own auntie house?

    It is self defense because his son ran at him with a knife Dafuq?
    ikr wtf?

    I think the kid was just fucking with his dad or something. One way or another, it is a pretty goddamn dangerous prank.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotic View Post


    US Laws state that if someone's on your property you have the right to "defend" it. Meaning; kill them.

    At least that's what I thought it was. Correct me if I'm wrong.
    You are correct but you are also wrong a small detail.

    The teen aka his son was not on there lawn, he was on the neighbor aka the auntie lawn.

    The auntie called the teens father saying someone Might be breaking in and the father came and shot him because the kid ran at his father with a knife.

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    However sad it is, it is justified. Imagine yourself in the situation.. would you just stand there and let anyone including your son attack you with a knife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strikerb View Post
    However sad it is, it is justified. Imagine yourself in the situation.. would you just stand there and let anyone including your son attack you with a knife.
    If my son ran at me I wouldn't kill him....I would shoot him to stop him not kills

    The guy reportedly shot him more than once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgessjr View Post


    If my son ran at me I wouldn't kill him....I would shoot him to stop him not kills

    The guy reportedly shot him more than once.
    That is true but he did not know it was his son.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strikerb View Post
    That is true but he did not know it was his son.
    I know that . I read the article.

    He found out after the police took the kids mask off.

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    tired of hearing this type of shit everywhere
    whats wrong with people???

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    Can't even imagine how fucked they all feel now , for killing their own childrens...

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