Karma - Good or Bad?

[eggzar]

So I had a question on my mind for a pretty long time. I'd like to know if the champion, Karma, is good or not.

In what ways is she good? In what ways I she bad?

It would really help me a lot if someone could help me with this, thanks!

[Janitor]

Every champ is good and excels at certain stuff.
I like karma TOP honestly (AP Tank) but she can work as well in mid and she is played support mostly.

Pros of karma:
-high base damage.
-can build anything and still get away with it. (Reasonable builds).
-great poke dmg and low CD on abilities if you hit enemy champs.
-mini sivir ult + shield.
-longest snare ingame if landed (R+W), it also gives you heal !
-R+Q can chunk down enemy squishies.
-Ardent is a core item on her because she can give her whole team a buff.
-Support lane bully.

Cons:
-Not mobile.
-Needs to land skillshots perfectly on enemy carries.
-low range abilities compared to other champs that can do her job easily with lower risk.
-resource champion (relies on mana)
-needs 2 or 3 items to get going.

I play her top & build -> RoA - Spirit visage - Boots of lucidity - Void staff - Frozen heart "if heavy ad enemy team" / Abyssal scepter - Deathcap.
^This build allows her to be tanky, have tons of heals, and do respectable damage.
She is good imo, but she doesn't have an identity.

[Hunter]

My opinion is pretty much the same as Ameer's so yeah, Karma's a good champion in the end.

[Thaz]

Every champ is good and excels at certain stuff.
I like karma TOP honestly (AP Tank) but she can work as well in mid and she is played support mostly.

Pros of karma:
-high base damage.
-can build anything and still get away with it. (Reasonable builds).
-great poke dmg and low CD on abilities if you hit enemy champs.
-mini sivir ult + shield.
-longest snare ingame if landed (R+W), it also gives you heal !
-R+Q can chunk down enemy squishies.
-Ardent is a core item on her because she can give her whole team a buff.
-Support lane bully.

Cons:
-Not mobile.
-Needs to land skillshots perfectly on enemy carries.
-low range abilities compared to other champs that can do her job easily with lower risk.
-resource champion (relies on mana)
-needs 2 or 3 items to get going.

I play her top & build -> RoA - Spirit visage - Boots of lucidity - Void staff - Frozen heart "if heavy ad enemy team" / Abyssal scepter - Deathcap.
^This build allows her to be tanky, have tons of heals, and do respectable damage.
She is good imo, but she doesn't have an identity.

I disagree with some of your statements.
1) She has decent mobility, especially with her snare and movement speed.
2) She definitely does not have the longest snare, Morgana does.

And your build is really mediocre. The spirit visage is just a waste, because most of the time you're not going to be ulting your snare (which is a waste IMO). Spirit visage should be bought on champions that have constant life regen/steal (Mundo, Nasus, etc.).

[Poseidon]

Every champ is good and excels at certain stuff.
I like karma TOP honestly (AP Tank) but she can work as well in mid and she is played support mostly.

Pros of karma:
-high base damage.
-can build anything and still get away with it. (Reasonable builds).
-great poke dmg and low CD on abilities if you hit enemy champs.
-mini sivir ult + shield.
-longest snare ingame if landed (R+W), it also gives you heal !
-R+Q can chunk down enemy squishies.
-Ardent is a core item on her because she can give her whole team a buff.
-Support lane bully.

Cons:
-Not mobile.
-Needs to land skillshots perfectly on enemy carries.
-low range abilities compared to other champs that can do her job easily with lower risk.
-resource champion (relies on mana)
-needs 2 or 3 items to get going.

I play her top & build -> RoA - Spirit visage - Boots of lucidity - Void staff - Frozen heart "if heavy ad enemy team" / Abyssal scepter - Deathcap.
^This build allows her to be tanky, have tons of heals, and do respectable damage.
She is good imo, but she doesn't have an identity.

I don't know about the not mobile there. Her shield gives quite a buff for kiting efficiently. Also I think her Q is pretty long range.

[Janitor]

I disagree with some of your statements.
1) She has decent mobility, especially with her snare and movement speed.
2) She definitely does not have the longest snare, Morgana does.

And your build is really mediocre. The spirit visage is just a waste, because most of the time you're not going to be ulting your snare (which is a waste IMO). Spirit visage should be bought on champions that have constant life regen/steal (Mundo, Nasus, etc.).

I can agree on the mobility part some what.
But she has the longest snare in game for 3.5 seconds, Morgana has 3 seconds snare.
I posted my build for the top lane not mid, ofc you are not going to build that in the mid lane. But spirit visage (MR,CD,Health,Heal) works great on her !
Check this

I don't know about the not mobile there. Her shield gives quite a buff for kiting efficiently. Also I think her Q is pretty long range.

Not a real long range like Azir, Ziggs, Xerath, Viktor... also it's punishing if you miss it.
The E buff is great but that isn't enough mobility, any champ with a dash can keep up with her.

[Poseidon]

I can agree on the mobility part some what.
But she has the longest snare in game for 3.5 seconds, Morgana has 3 seconds snare.
I posted my build for the top lane not mid, ofc you are not going to build that in the mid lane. But spirit visage (MR,CD,Health,Heal) works great on her !
Check this



Not a real long range like Azir, Ziggs, Xerath, Viktor... also it's punishing if you miss it.
The E buff is great but that isn't enough mobility, any champ with a dash can keep up with her.

Nah, you get Luden's and Ardent. No catching up with her. And I guess, but who plays Ziggs or Azir anymore. Ziggs is trash and Azir got nerfed so much :s Xerath is a rare site, and I guess Viktor is an acception to outranging her. But he's getting his ultimate nerfed soon again.

[Janitor]

Nah, you get Luden's and Ardent. No catching up with her. And I guess, but who plays Ziggs or Azir anymore. Ziggs is trash and Azir got nerfed so much :s Xerath is a rare site, and I guess Viktor is an acception to outranging her. But he's getting his ultimate nerfed soon again.

I wasn't talking about meta, Karma isn't even meta (maybe support but rarely, there better picks)
I was talking about range in general, also lux...
Again any dash champ can get to her; Zed (W + E "slow"), Yasuo(E + Knockup), Lee(Q/W + E "slow"), Kata (E+W"movement speed buff"), Leblanc(W + R), and the dash god champion Riven..
I'm sure she can't escape these champions or out run them, and don't forget that slows > speeds.

[Poseidon]

I wasn't talking about meta, Karma isn't even meta (maybe support but rarely, there better picks)
I was talking about range in general, also lux...
Again any dash champ can get to her; Zed (W + E "slow"), Yasuo(E + Knockup), Lee(Q/W + E "slow"), Kata (E+W"movement speed buff"), Leblanc(W + R), and the dash god champion Riven..
I'm sure she can't escape these champions or out run them, and don't forget that slows > speeds.

I guess so. You are right my friend.

[Hunter]

Keep things on-topic, won't ask again. Thanks.

[Raw]

When I play vs a karma (support) I usually get dicked since I'm not a adc main and she is such a good bully. She is deff decent with enough practice every champ is "good"

[OncePhoenix]

So I had a question on my mind for a pretty long time. I'd like to know if the champion, Karma, is good or not.

In what ways is she good? In what ways I she bad?

It would really help me a lot if someone could help me with this, thanks!

Very good. One of the go to supports, outside of Leona, Thresh, Sona, and Soraka she is probably next in line

[Hunter]

OP got banned.

/Closed.