Results 1 to 8 of 8
  1. #1
    Gray's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Gender
    male
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    13,557
    Reputation
    2516
    Thanks
    10,618

    m2 drive and ram cache

    As m2 drives are super fast already, I started to think about the ram cache feature some asus boards have.
    Is m2 faster than ram? If not, is it worth using ram cache on top of an m2 drive?
    Are there any risks of data loss?

  2. #2
    Vice's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Gender
    male
    Location
    vicempgh@proton.me
    Posts
    2,632
    Reputation
    234
    Thanks
    1,864
    My Mood
    Dead
    Dont know much about it either :/

  3. #3
    Aborted's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Gender
    male
    Posts
    18,187
    Reputation
    3509
    Thanks
    6,751
    My Mood
    Inspired
    M2's are fast, but NVMe's are even faster.
    Both are still slower than RAM, but they're non-volatile unlike RAM is.

    RAM cache is only worth it if you have enough overhead (such as having 32GB, but only using 8GB of it on a regular basis), and once again RAM is completely volatile, and you'll lose all your data as soon as your machine turns off. Using it for quick read/writes cycles like encoding videos may be worth it, and then transferring it over to a HDD,SSD,M2, or NVMe.


    Last edited by Aborted; 09-09-2016 at 08:19 PM.
    You were seeking strength, justice, splendour.
    You were seeking love.
    Here is the pit, here is your pit.
    Its name is Silence..


  4. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Aborted For This Useful Post:

    Poseidon (09-09-2016),Raple (09-09-2016),Gray (09-09-2016)

  5. #4
    Raple's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Gender
    male
    Posts
    10,149
    Reputation
    3856
    Thanks
    9,494
    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post
    M2's are fast, but NVMe's are even faster.
    Both are still slower than RAM, but they're non-volatile unlike RAM is.

    RAM cache is only worth it if you have enough overhead (such as having 32GB, but only using 8GB of it on a regular basis), and once again RAM is completely volatile, and you'll lose all your data as soon as your machine turns off. Using it for quick read/writes cycles like encoding videos may be worth it, and then transferring it over to a HDD,SSD,M2, or NVMe.


    Literally universal genius, you never cease to surprise me.

  6. The Following User Says Thank You to Raple For This Useful Post:

    Aborted (09-09-2016)

  7. #5
    "We are shaped by our thoughts; we become what we think"
    Premium Seller
    Premium Member
    Poseidon's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Gender
    male
    Location
    6,981
    Posts
    3,998
    Reputation
    643
    Thanks
    2,247
    My Mood
    Cheerful
    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post
    M2's are fast, but NVMe's are even faster.
    Both are still slower than RAM, but they're non-volatile unlike RAM is.

    RAM cache is only worth it if you have enough overhead (such as having 32GB, but only using 8GB of it on a regular basis), and once again RAM is completely volatile, and you'll lose all your data as soon as your machine turns off. Using it for quick read/writes cycles like encoding videos may be worth it, and then transferring it over to a HDD,SSD,M2, or NVMe.


    Please. You explain it and it made sense. How you do this. Please teach me.
    Pʟᴇᴀsᴇ ᴘʀᴇss +Rᴇᴘ ᴀɴᴅ/ᴏʀ Tʜᴀɴᴋs ɪғ I ᴀssɪsᴛᴇᴅ ʏᴏᴜ ᴏʀ ᴡᴀs ᴏғ sᴇʀᴠɪᴄᴇ ɪɴ ᴀɴʏ ᴡᴀʏ.

    ╭━━━━━━━━━━━━━━•━━━━━━━━━━━━━━╮
    Vᴏᴜᴄʜᴇs
    Lᴇᴀɢᴜᴇ ᴏғ Lᴇɢᴇɴᴅs NA Gɪғᴛɪɴɢ Sᴇʀᴠɪᴄᴇ
    US Dᴏᴍɪɴᴏ's Pɪᴢᴢᴀs

    ╰━━━━━━━━━━━━━━•━━━━━━━━━━━━━━╯

  8. #6
    Gray's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Gender
    male
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    13,557
    Reputation
    2516
    Thanks
    10,618
    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post
    M2's are fast, but NVMe's are even faster.
    Both are still slower than RAM, but they're non-volatile unlike RAM is.

    RAM cache is only worth it if you have enough overhead (such as having 32GB, but only using 8GB of it on a regular basis), and once again RAM is completely volatile, and you'll lose all your data as soon as your machine turns off. Using it for quick read/writes cycles like encoding videos may be worth it, and then transferring it over to a HDD,SSD,M2, or NVMe.


    Is it possible to have it write information to drive periodically?
    Say every five minutes, preventing complete data loss?
    I'd love to have an NVMe setup as a system drive, having ram cache on top as I did intend to work my way towards 64gb's worth of DDR4's.
    Progressing to having a bigger amount of storage with pretty much lightning fast bootups and transfers.

  9. #7
    Aborted's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Gender
    male
    Posts
    18,187
    Reputation
    3509
    Thanks
    6,751
    My Mood
    Inspired
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Gray View Post
    Is it possible to have it write information to drive periodically?
    Say every five minutes, preventing complete data loss?
    I'd love to have an NVMe setup as a system drive, having ram cache on top as I did intend to work my way towards 64gb's worth of DDR4's.
    Progressing to having a bigger amount of storage with pretty much lightning fast bootups and transfers.
    So basically you want to create a 64GB persistent Ramdisk, with your OS on an NVMe.
    Yeah you can do that, most RAM Disk software allows for the scheduled creation of system images; creating an active system image of your RAM disk, and saving it on to your non-volatile NVMe drive, and if anything goes wrong it can easily boot the last saved image.
    You were seeking strength, justice, splendour.
    You were seeking love.
    Here is the pit, here is your pit.
    Its name is Silence..


  10. #8
    Gray's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Gender
    male
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    13,557
    Reputation
    2516
    Thanks
    10,618
    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post

    So basically you want to create a 64GB persistent Ramdisk, with your OS on an NVMe.
    Yeah you can do that, most RAM Disk software allows for the scheduled creation of system images; creating an active system image of your RAM disk, and saving it on to your non-volatile NVMe drive, and if anything goes wrong it can easily boot the last saved image.
    That sounds exactly like what I need. I'd likely have out of the 64gb at least 32gb worth of cache.
    So that everything else that may be running have more than enough space to work on.

    Would you say that the extra speed is worth it?
    How much would it affect the bootup time, would I be looking at a few seconds to boot the PC up?

    Say I get a Samsung 950 Pro Series MZ-V5P256BW 256GB as a the drive to have it store on, with the ram cache.
    The speed is already around 2200mb/s for read and 900mb/s for write, what speeds would be expected with all of this? Is there like a percentual increase, is there a drop off point where it's simply not worth it anymore?

    How much will the clocking speed of the ram affect this in terms of work speed? Because I'm looking at 3200, 3333 and 3400's.

Similar Threads

  1. [WTB] VPS/RDP Admin Access , high internet and ram !!!
    By GEW$Y#H#YHh5 in forum Buying Accounts/Keys/Items
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 07-30-2020, 10:45 PM
  2. My new GPU and Ram.
    By Charion in forum Computer Builds & Upgrades
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 12-04-2015, 01:03 PM
  3. [Release] New #10 Jeep Jump And Ramming Speed
    By siahtekrr in forum Battlefield Heroes Hacks
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 12-31-2011, 02:53 PM
  4. rimming and ramming
    By Sjoerd in forum General
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 09-01-2010, 06:09 AM