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    Trump: Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. Im fucked.

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    lmao, yeah I was going to make a thread about it... but congress is shit and won't do anything about it

    that retard obviously obstructed the investigation, there's a 400 page report that explains how. he's right he's fucked but unfortunately he's going to have to lose an election to lose his presidency





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    Andrew Yang anyone? LOL

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    Its already the end of his presidency... got em. Fuck you dab, haven't said one of those in a while.
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    trump untouchable its like a loophole of refunds follow by more loopholes

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    I may be wrong, but at this point, I dont even know why people hate him. He HAS bad habits like all the prior presidents. He isnt OBAMA obviously. But, I do feel he seemed the sanest out of all the people running for president that year. Business tycoon and what now. Poor guy cant even get to hold his wife's hand lmao XD I used to dislike him, but then I realised I have no actual reason to :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by HALOS117 View Post
    I may be wrong, but at this point, I dont even know why people hate him. He HAS bad habits like all the prior presidents. He isnt OBAMA obviously. But, I do feel he seemed the sanest out of all the people running for president that year. Business tycoon and what now. Poor guy cant even get to hold his wife's hand lmao XD I used to dislike him, but then I realised I have no actual reason to :3
    Sanest person? In what way?

    There are so many reasons to hate him. He lies more than any president in recorded history, he has no understanding of climate change and disregards it, his economic policies are absolutely garbage, he panders to hate groups, he cheats on his wife, he avoided paying taxes, he resorts to name calling his opponents, he had to sign an executive order to build his wall because he couldn't muster up the support from his own party, he settled in court because he wouldn't rent to blacks, he has filed bankruptcy multiple times while claiming to be the best businessman in the world, he claims that illegal immigrants commit more crime and don't pay taxes when statistics show that both illegal and legal immigrants commit less crime than the natives of the USA. That's just off the top of the head and there are hundreds of other reasons why this dude is a buffoon and has no place in office.

    Anybody who thinks this guy is competent/doing a good job/isn't a bad person, is either ignorant to what Trump has said/done or they are delusional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HALOS117 View Post
    I may be wrong, but at this point, I dont even know why people hate him. He HAS bad habits like all the prior presidents. He isnt OBAMA obviously. But, I do feel he seemed the sanest out of all the people running for president that year. Business tycoon and what now. Poor guy cant even get to hold his wife's hand lmao XD I used to dislike him, but then I realised I have no actual reason to :3
    I agree. It’s become like a bandwagon to just hate him senselessly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Confluency View Post


    Sanest person? In what way?

    There are so many reasons to hate him. He lies more than any president in recorded history, he has no understanding of climate change and disregards it, his economic policies are absolutely garbage, he panders to hate groups, he cheats on his wife, he avoided paying taxes, he resorts to name calling his opponents, he had to sign an executive order to build his wall because he couldn't muster up the support from his own party, he settled in court because he wouldn't rent to blacks, he has filed bankruptcy multiple times while claiming to be the best businessman in the world, he claims that illegal immigrants commit more crime and don't pay taxes when statistics show that both illegal and legal immigrants commit less crime than the natives of the USA. That's just off the top of the head and there are hundreds of other reasons why this dude is a buffoon and has no place in office.

    Anybody who thinks this guy is competent/doing a good job/isn't a bad person, is either ignorant to what Trump has said/done or they are delusional.
    See, you may have your own thoughts. But right when you disregard someone else's opinions clearly shows how delusional you are thinking that your opinions are correct. Going to your points- 1. How the hell do you know he lies more than any president ever recorded? you have a ledger for all this in america?
    2. He said something wrong about climate change. Yes its an issue and he should address it. Doesnt mean all presidents have always had the correct opinion about all topics.
    3. Trump is a business tycoon. You cant argue that. He in theory should be the most competent person to talk about economics and money. While his policies may have drawbacks, it is not correct to say that its fully useless or "garbage". He doesnt have such a huge empire.
    4. Hilary or any other politician does the same. Some at a less level, some go openly. Its not a good thing, but thats how it works.
    5. Cheating on his wife is his personal issue. Hilary put security at risk with those emails.
    6. Taxes deadlines are missed, he will pay them. Else he would be made to. simple.
    7. Name calling his opponents? i dont call this a mature argument point. Its politics, people call whoever, whatever. I have heard someone call trump an oompa loompa looking mother sucker XD
    8. He didnt muster up the support of his party...but does that mean the wall is a bad thing? the wall would provide protection from terrorists, illegal immigrants etc.9. The thing that shows that he is a good businessman is where he is able to become the president of one of the world's super powers after filing multiple bankruptcies :3.
    10. It doesnt matter who commits more crimes. What matters is that I personally wouldnt want an UNREGISTERED person roaming around a country, who cannot be tracked in any document and has no repercussions, no need to pay taxes etc. I feel sorry for the genuine people trying to survive. But going through rules isnt a bad thing. They are there for a reason.

    Now, I totally understand the concerns etc. that people have against trump. Doesnt mean he is an amazing guy. Neither was Hillary or Bernie in my opinion. OBAMA looked like a president, worked like a president. He also, had his shortcomings. But I and all of us love him.
    Trump won the election. AMERICA voted for him. You let him up there. Now you are shitting on the guy. My main point was to give him a break. He won fair and square. Now let him finish his tenure and then choose someone who is an ideal president.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sethburster View Post
    I agree. It’s become like a bandwagon to just hate him senselessly.
    Half of the people do that. I am not even from america and feel they are just shitting on him all day and night XD. We have had our bad prime ministers. They come and go. Trump isnt sitting in the office, being like, " alright, let me just end america right now MUAHAHAH".

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    Quote Originally Posted by HALOS117 View Post
    1. How the hell do you know he lies more than any president ever recorded? you have a ledger for all this in america?
    https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-...-1362683459818


    Quote Originally Posted by HALOS117 View Post
    2. He said something wrong about climate change. Yes its an issue and he should address it. Doesnt mean all presidents have always had the correct opinion about all topics.
    Are you this daft? There is a HUGE difference between simply because wrong about something and being wrong about something but doubling down on it while also purposefully spreading misinformation so you can continue to help fill the pockets of those who benefit from fucking up the earth. e.g his good pals in Saudi Arabia.


    Quote Originally Posted by HALOS117 View Post
    3. Trump is a business tycoon. You cant argue that. He in theory should be the most competent person to talk about economics and money. While his policies may have drawbacks, it is not correct to say that its fully useless or "garbage". He doesnt have such a huge empire.
    Once again, are you REALLY this daft? It's not hard to be successful when given enough money that will ensure any future failure you may endure will not cripple you or any other future investments. Trump was given the golden ticket in life and even when filing for four bankruptcies he still had daddys money to keep him safe.

    His economic policies are absolute garbage and he's on track to surpass Obama's debt threshold (keep in mind Obama took over during a recession and had to spend billions on bailouts) all while taking over a country that was on the upward track economically. He is an absolute fool who's policies benefit the rich.


    Quote Originally Posted by HALOS117 View Post
    5. Cheating on his wife is his personal issue. Hilary put security at risk with those emails.
    Irrelevant, you openly stated that there is no reason to hate him. I gave one of many reasons, I don't give a fuck if it's a personal issue lmao.

    Oh and it's cute you bring up the emails, Trump's advisors did the same just a year after. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/u...er-bannon.html

    Quote Originally Posted by HALOS117 View Post
    6. Taxes deadlines are missed, he will pay them. Else he would be made to. simple.
    Lol. Fuck you're stupid, I won't even bother with this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by HALOS117 View Post
    7. Name calling his opponents? i dont call this a mature argument point. Its politics, people call whoever, whatever. I have heard someone call trump an oompa loompa looking mother sucker XD
    I really don't have an issue with name calling, I just have an issue with a president who's incapable of forming a rational argument so he resorts to name calling. His party will yell "HE'S DUH PRESUHDAHNT SO YOUAH GOTSTA RESPEKT HEUM" implying that he's in a position of needed respect, yet he fails to give any himself.


    Quote Originally Posted by HALOS117 View Post
    8. He didnt muster up the support of his party...but does that mean the wall is a bad thing? the wall would provide protection from terrorists, illegal immigrants etc.9. The thing that shows that he is a good businessman is where he is able to become the president of one of the world's super powers after filing multiple bankruptcies :3.


    Quote Originally Posted by HALOS117 View Post
    10. It doesnt matter who commits more crimes. What matters is that I personally wouldnt want an UNREGISTERED person roaming around a country, who cannot be tracked in any document and has no repercussions, no need to pay taxes etc. I feel sorry for the genuine people trying to survive. But going through rules isnt a bad thing. They are there for a reason.
    This is a valid point. Hence the increased border security that has been proven to have worked, showing once again that the wall is a fruitless effort. Illegal immigration has gone down immensely without a wall, so why waste billions on it when in the same breathe you are cutting funds to education?

    Quote Originally Posted by HALOS117 View Post
    AMERICA voted for him.
    Yeah no buddy, the Americans that voted, voted for Hillary. The American political system is busted and votes aren't 1:1, for example the college educated Engineer who lives in California vote will mean less than the highschool dropout who's family lineage stems from coal miners and have a collective Iq of 70, all because they live on the rust belt.

    Quote Originally Posted by HALOS117 View Post
    He won fair and square.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confluency View Post


    https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-...-1362683459818




    Are you this daft? There is a HUGE difference between simply because wrong about something and being wrong about something but doubling down on it while also purposefully spreading misinformation so you can continue to help fill the pockets of those who benefit from fucking up the earth. e.g his good pals in Saudi Arabia.




    Once again, are you REALLY this daft? It's not hard to be successful when given enough money that will ensure any future failure you may endure will not cripple you or any other future investments. Trump was given the golden ticket in life and even when filing for four bankruptcies he still had daddys money to keep him safe.

    His economic policies are absolute garbage and he's on track to surpass Obama's debt threshold (keep in mind Obama took over during a recession and had to spend billions on bailouts) all while taking over a country that was on the upward track economically. He is an absolute fool who's policies benefit the rich.




    Irrelevant, you openly stated that there is no reason to hate him. I gave one of many reasons, I don't give a fuck if it's a personal issue lmao.

    Oh and it's cute you bring up the emails, Trump's advisors did the same just a year after. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/u...er-bannon.html

    Lol. Fuck you're stupid, I won't even bother with this one.

    I really don't have an issue with name calling, I just have an issue with a president who's incapable of forming a rational argument so he resorts to name calling. His party will yell "HE'S DUH PRESUHDAHNT SO YOUAH GOTSTA RESPEKT HEUM" implying that he's in a position of needed respect, yet he fails to give any himself.






    This is a valid point. Hence the increased border security that has been proven to have worked, showing once again that the wall is a fruitless effort. Illegal immigration has gone down immensely without a wall, so why waste billions on it when in the same breathe you are cutting funds to education?



    Yeah no buddy, the Americans that voted, voted for Hillary. The American political system is busted and votes aren't 1:1, for example the college educated Engineer who lives in California vote will mean less than the highschool dropout who's family lineage stems from coal miners and have a collective Iq of 70, all because they live on the rust belt.




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    you have to freaking make me type so much -_- main gist was I may be wrong, but at this point, I dont even know why people hate him. He HAS bad habits like all the prior presidents. He isnt OBAMA obviously. But, I do feel he seemed the sanest out of all the people running for president that year. Business tycoon and what now. Poor guy cant even get to hold his wife's hand lmao XD I used to dislike him, but then I realised I have no actual reason to :3 I have not said he is the best guy for the pres here.. read.. i said he was in my opinion the best guy at THAT exact election. AND MY ASS RUSSIA DIDNT DO SHIT! Americans just butt hurt that an oompa loompa beat a feminist.


    I do agree with most of your points here. BECAUSE IN MY ORIGINAL POST, i have mentioned that i used to dislike him...at this point, idc as he will be changed in a year or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave84311 View Post
    lmao, yeah I was going to make a thread about it... but congress is shit and won't do anything about it

    that retard obviously obstructed the investigation, there's a 400 page report that explains how. he's right he's fucked but unfortunately he's going to have to lose an election to lose his presidency
    The sad thing is with the insane campaign he ran is that he will use the same tactics of misinformation and the inside access to the Fox propaganda network to rack another 10k lies and/or misleading claims that will eventually lead to him giving up and just start riding the Saudi King's oil doused dick until the Israeli PM Netanyahu commands tells him to stop so that he doesn't go over the Pornhub time limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HALOS117 View Post
    you have to freaking make me type so much -_- main gist was I may be wrong, but at this point, I dont even know why people hate him. He HAS bad habits like all the prior presidents. He isnt OBAMA obviously. But, I do feel he seemed the sanest out of all the people running for president that year. Business tycoon and what now. Poor guy cant even get to hold his wife's hand lmao XD I used to dislike him, but then I realised I have no actual reason to :3 I have not said he is the best guy for the pres here.. read.. i said he was in my opinion the best guy at THAT exact election. AND MY ASS RUSSIA DIDNT DO SHIT! Americans just butt hurt that an oompa loompa beat a feminist.


    I do agree with most of your points here. BECAUSE IN MY ORIGINAL POST, i have mentioned that i used to dislike him...at this point, idc as he will be changed in a year or two.
    Here is the problem (one of many imo) with Trump: Most of the people arguing against Trump are just as ignorant as those arguing for him. The truth is that Trump's entire presidency is set up in a way, similar to dictatorships, that he can never be wrong and can always divert the blame. A couple of the many ways he does this is-
    a. using scapegoats even though facts nor does his own government agree with him (mexicans, muslims, etc.)

    b. Using mass media, his circle of powerful allies, as well as technology to continuously and constantly bombard his supporters as well as most of the right with what much of the time is misleading info or straight up lies (the reason I say this is because he has nearly 10k lies/misleading claims on record since the beginning of his presidency which is insanely more than any other president) as he continues to use scapegoats for the problems in our country and his failed campaign promises. He then uses Fox news and other severely right leaning news stations to further push his messages.

    c. Calling any claims or arguments his opposition has FAKE (ex. CNN) and using his bombarding techniqes he is usually able to put his majority ignorant supporters in a media bubble that is going to be hard for them to pop. This is a method many dictators employed including Hitler and Mussolini.

    d. His actions: Trump was already able to take power by fearmongering and making things look much worse than they are and he still isn't even able to deliver on his campaign promises that were stupid and are the same as putting a bandaid on a heart disease patient. For example, claiming a wall will help with the "drugs and guns" these "rapist and murderer" immigrants who are escaping a worn torn country are trying to bring into a country even though most of the drugs are smuggled through either checkpoints, underground tunnels, boats, or planes.

    I can go all day about his actions and his whole persona and how the idea that him not being a politician makes him a better president is a lie. The second this guy got into offices he started working for HIS bosses aka the people who funded his boisterous campaign.

    He is a smart guy and knows what he is doing. I just wish most Americans did too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teagaaf View Post
    The sad thing is with the insane campaign he ran is that he will use the same tactics of misinformation and the inside access to the Fox propaganda network to rack another 10k lies and/or misleading claims that will eventually lead to him giving up and just start riding the Saudi King's oil doused dick until the Israeli PM Netanyahu commands tells him to stop so that he doesn't go over the Pornhub time limit.

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    Here is the problem (one of many imo) with Trump: Most of the people arguing against Trump are just as ignorant as those arguing for him. The truth is that Trump's entire presidency is set up in a way, similar to dictatorships, that he can never be wrong and can always divert the blame. A couple of the many ways he does this is-
    a. using scapegoats even though facts nor does his own government agree with him (mexicans, muslims, etc.)

    b. Using mass media, his circle of powerful allies, as well as technology to continuously and constantly bombard his supporters as well as most of the right with what much of the time is misleading info or straight up lies (the reason I say this is because he has nearly 10k lies/misleading claims on record since the beginning of his presidency which is insanely more than any other president) as he continues to use scapegoats for the problems in our country and his failed campaign promises. He then uses Fox news and other severely right leaning news stations to further push his messages.

    c. Calling any claims or arguments his opposition has FAKE (ex. CNN) and using his bombarding techniqes he is usually able to put his majority ignorant supporters in a media bubble that is going to be hard for them to pop. This is a method many dictators employed including Hitler and Mussolini.

    d. His actions: Trump was already able to take power by fearmongering and making things look much worse than they are and he still isn't even able to deliver on his campaign promises that were stupid and are the same as putting a bandaid on a heart disease patient. For example, claiming a wall will help with the "drugs and guns" these "rapist and murderer" immigrants who are escaping a worn torn country are trying to bring into a country even though most of the drugs are smuggled through either checkpoints, underground tunnels, boats, or planes.

    I can go all day about his actions and his whole persona and how the idea that him not being a politician makes him a better president is a lie. The second this guy got into offices he started working for HIS bosses aka the people who funded his boisterous campaign.

    He is a smart guy and knows what he is doing. I just wish most Americans did too.

    He violated international human rights laws and the federal government is actively being sued by hundreds of people due to his policies.

    Since you may be operating under the premise I'm ignorant and making shit up, here is your proof.


    (one of many sources on ICE illegally detaining asylum seekers)
    https://www.aclu.org/blog/immigrants...asylum-seekers



    US Constitution Article 6, Section 2:

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    (International law is US law)


    The Universal Declaration of Human Rights Article 14, Section 1:

    https://www.un.org/en/universal-decl...-human-rights/

    (Guarantees the right to asylum to people being persecuted by their government, cartels, etc...)

    The Universal Declaration of Human Rights
    1967 protocal on refugees, Article 31.

    https://www.unhcr.org/3bcfdf164.pdf

    (Outlines that refugees actively seeking asylum cannot be punished)



    This is one of many informed examples that Trump is a retard.
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