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    Added . Sorry for the delay. I am sick . Please send me his ******* or ask him to send screens of the chat so i can see his name . Thanks alot .

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    Here are all the proofs . Stop trying to act smart and scam . Deleting the btc address and other msges wont do you any good .

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    Quote Originally Posted by zehergod1 View Post
    Added . Sorry for the delay. I am sick . Please send me his ******* or ask him to send screens of the chat so i can see his name . Thanks alot .

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    Here are all the proofs . Stop trying to act smart and scam . Deleting the btc address and other msges wont do you any good .
    Unfortunately the screenshots hold no proof that a payment was indeed sent, there was no exchange of btc address or a message of receipt from @crisiscore1 There is no way to prove if any part of the conversation was deleted and no means available to recover such messages either, this is why we ask of you to use the IM system on the website. Unless you can prove that the btc address belongs to crisiscore1 you will either have to refund him or stay banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Time View Post


    Unfortunately the screenshots hold no proof that a payment was indeed sent, there was no exchange of btc address or a message of receipt from @crisiscore1 There is no way to prove if any part of the conversation was deleted and no means available to recover such messages either, this is why we ask of you to use the IM system on the website. Unless you can prove that the btc address belongs to crisiscore1 you will either have to refund him or stay banned.
    I am ready to pay him 60$ as decided . Please drop your btc address @crisiscore1

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisiscore1 View Post
    I don't remember even giving you my btc address, you asked for my "address", and I asked if you wanted the btc address, then u said no, house address because you wanted check your docs to see if you started your SE or something along the lines of that. After that you said you'll send me the amount "tonight" and let me know when you have sent it. Then I never heard back from you again.

    So if you want, you can send it to me now, but I'm not going to take $60 in btc, because in the amount of time it went by, bitcoin price has more than quadrupled from $4000 to $17000. I dont want to take 4x$60 = $240 either, but I would say it's easier if you just send me the amount the item itself costs ($150) so I can buy it myself instead. You still made a net "profit" of $90 for having kept your btc so I think this is fair for both of us.
    Quote Originally Posted by zehergod1 View Post
    I am ready to pay him 60$ as decided . Please drop your btc address @crisiscore1
    The agreed price to refund was 60 USD through BTC and that will be the price @zehergod1 will refund. Make sure you two are using MPGH IM this time in order to maintain a secure record of the conversation, @crisiscore1 get in contact with OP on IM and post on this thread when you have received the refund.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Time View Post




    The agreed price to refund was 60 USD through BTC and that will be the price @zehergod1 will refund. Make sure you two are using MPGH IM this time in order to maintain a secure record of the conversation, @crisiscore1 get in contact with OP on IM and post on this thread when you have received the refund.
    Hey Time, thank you for your decision on this.
    However I do have a few issues I hope to raise up. He has delayed (since the giveaway), for almost an entire year (almost 10 months). From the time we agreed on the $60 refund, bitcoin price has went up 3x (From 4k to 12k), which means by paying the same amount, he is still on a net profit of 3x the original amount. Not only that, but I feel that it is more fair for the refund to be closer to the price of the item, which is around $150, as he failed on the giveaway, it makes sense to provide an amount closer to it for me to purchase it myself. Not only that, but he has blatantly lied about the refund, as well as called me a scammer. I feel that this is unfair to me, because one of the rules was any lies on an appeal is an instant ban. I feel that to be fairer to everyone, he should be made to refund more.

    Of course I also don't want to be a complete asshole. I am happy for a middle ground where everyone is happy, of maybe only $100. It seems more fair, and he has a net profit ($60 x 3 = $180), since his original $60 refund is worth $180 now due to bitcoin price increase.

    But the decision is up to the mods, if they feel that $60 is still fair after delaying so long and lying about it, I'll gladly take what I can. Thank you and have a great day ahead!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisiscore1 View Post
    From the time we agreed on the $60 refund, bitcoin price has went up 3x (From 4k to 12k), which means by paying the same amount, he is still on a net profit of 3x the original amount.
    The BTC fluctuation will take no place in this dispute, it's completely unpredictable and if BTC had dropped to $1 I imagine you wouldn't be too happy about that situation either, therefore situations like these will be dealt with in the USD value. Also if you had been paid $60 BTC 10 mths ago there is no guarantee you would've held it till right now.. In the future you can report these things much sooner

    As for the amount to be paid, this will stay as $60. I have based this off a currently open Logitech SE service which is selling the G910 for $55, therefore the SE cost of the 810 you wanted would be around the same.

    Awaiting confirmation that you received $60 from @zehergod1

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    Sent him the btc .
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    https://prntscr.com/ohgsm6 @crisiscore1 Please confirm

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    Quote Originally Posted by zehergod1 View Post
    Sent him the btc .
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    https://prntscr.com/ohgsm6 @crisiscore1 Please confirm
    Awaiting confirmation from @crisiscore1 , in the meantime you could provide screenshots of the IM Conversation without cropping anything out, has he confirmed over there?
    Last edited by Time; 4 Weeks Ago at 02:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Time View Post


    Awaiting confirmation from @crisiscore1 , in the meantime you could provide screenshots of the IM Conversation without cropping anything out, has he confirmed over there?
    Hi sorry for the late reply, the website hasnt been loading for me. But yes I've received it, thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisiscore1 View Post
    Hi sorry for the late reply, the website hasnt been loading for me. But yes I've received it, thank you!
    Thanks for the confirmation, dispute has been resolved.

    @Flengo @T-800 @Ahlwong @Psychotic please unban user @ZeherG0d

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    Quote Originally Posted by Time View Post


    Thanks for the confirmation, dispute has been resolved.

    @Flengo @T-800 @Ahlwong @Psychotic please unban user @ZeherG0d
    Lifted Ban on User ZeherG0d Successfully

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