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    Healthcare is NOT a basic human right

    Freak out of here with that Buckcrap. Also, just because I say that are not a BASIC HUMAN RIGHT doesn't mean I am for or against them. I just think the term "basic rights" is being passed around like a hooker on crack at at a mandingo party.


    Human rights are not universal nor did they exist since the birth of man (this part can be argued and torn apart imo) . They are man made-and a product of the humanitarian philosophical movement during the renaissance. So yeah, if you see it from this perspective, ethics are a human creation and you don't have to follow them, except of where you are bound to by the law. (pulled from reddit, mostly)


    Title should say not a basic human right.
    However a basic right I can get behind is slop joe rights. You can go to a local both and have your slopy joe sloppied. ; 0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternity View Post
    Freak out of here with that Buckcrap. Also, just because I say that are not a BASIC HUMAN RIGHT doesn't mean I am for or against them. I just think the term "basic rights" is being passed around like a hooker on crack at at a mandingo party.


    Human rights are not universal nor did they exist since the birth of man (this part can be argued and torn apart imo) . They are man made-and a product of the humanitarian philosophical movement during the renaissance. So yeah, if you see it from this perspective, ethics are a human creation and you don't have to follow them, except of where you are bound to by the law. (pulled from reddit, mostly)


    Title should say not a basic human right.
    However a basic right I can get behind is slop joe rights. You can go to a local both and have your slopy joe sloppied. ; 0.
    so you think that: if you get in an accident and have to go to the ER and get operated on and have a $600k bill; because you have no insurance you should spend the rest of your life paying it off. right?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternity View Post
    Freak out of here with that Buckcrap. Also, just because I say that are not a BASIC HUMAN RIGHT doesn't mean I am for or against them. I just think the term "basic rights" is being passed around like a hooker on crack at at a mandingo party.


    Human rights are not universal nor did they exist since the birth of man (this part can be argued and torn apart imo) . They are man made-and a product of the humanitarian philosophical movement during the renaissance. So yeah, if you see it from this perspective, ethics are a human creation and you don't have to follow them, except of where you are bound to by the law. (pulled from reddit, mostly)


    Title should say not a basic human right.
    However a basic right I can get behind is slop joe rights. You can go to a local both and have your slopy joe sloppied. ; 0.
    Let me tell you where you belong better: A Jungle.
    You will also find like-minded apes. So yeah, go have a good time.

    I swear in most of such discussions the real question becomes, how do we differentiate b/w animals and humans? What has our so called "superior minds" have given us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave84311 View Post


    so you think that: if you get in an accident and have to go to the ER and get operated on and have a $600k bill; because you have no insurance you should spend the rest of your life paying it off. right?
    I never said that you should have that absurdly high bill. However, I don't think that it should be free.


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    You will also find like-minded apes. So yeah, go have a good time.

    I swear in most of such discussions the real question becomes, how do we differentiate b/w animals and humans? What has our so called "superior minds" have given us?
    Focus on the conversation not insulting. If you have a different opinion than we can talk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternity View Post
    I never said that you should have that absurdly high bill. However, I don't think that it should be free.
    It's not free. In most cases, your taxes contribute to the costs.

    It's still not a perfect system though, I mean Sweden also has "free" healthcare (there are sometimes very small administration fees up to 50$, and a self-risk cost that you have to pay if you waste their time lol) but we have a lot of problems with it. Mostly because it is incredibly understaffed meaning queue times can sometimes be up to 6 hours, people have died in the waiting room here which is insane.

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    Stop getting all philosophical with the meaning of human right. If we want to get philosophical, we fundamentally created everything from our own interpretation. Our interpretation allow for equality and freedom (well, in western society), which in personal opinion, isn't bad thing... otherwise we might as well be cavemen.

    Also, accessible healthcare for all should be a human right. Everyone should have the right to live when they are facing a possibly fatal issue, and it shouldn't be the cost of a mortgage. Should be subsidized or free, depending on severity of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternity View Post


    I never said that you should have that absurdly high bill. However, I don't think that it should be free.


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    Focus on the conversation not insulting. If you have a different opinion than we can talk

    Hey, my bad. Really, Didn't mean to insult you. I love you<3.
    Since we say that we are apes, or atleast came from apes, idk why did it become so insulting. Anyways, I would rather have a logical argument than anything such. I thought it would kind of get into in answering the question but it had the total opposite effect. My Bad

    I also have rather dark, barbaric, and "survival of the fittest" type of world view like you. My main question was the later one though. Because it kind of boils down to that. Because you can really make such arguments on a lot of such things. But what ultimately differentiates us from animals is that we have mercy, love, and care for each other and other species. Not something you find in animals. Since you were getting all philosophical so replying as such. Which you can but it would then turn to religion and stuff. I am going to totally avoid that.

    I genuinely wanted you to answer these two questions:
    What makes us different from animals? More specifically, What has our so called "superior minds" have given us or made us different?

    Because in answering those questions, it is really hard to have same world as that of animals. The law of jungle.

    What is amazing is that you have no regard for human ethics, yet at the same time follow "man-made" law. Like Seriously? I am glad overall humans are not too barbaric, so yeah we have health care laws, because laws consider healthcare a basic human need. Deal with it!

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    Healthcare is NOT a basic human right if you are a dictator and want to be like Thanos

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    It obviously has to be if you consider being alive and healthy a basic human right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternity View Post


    I never said that you should have that absurdly high bill. However, I don't think that it should be free.

    That's how it is now. That's why there is a fight for it being a "human right."

    Your view is exactly as I said if you think things should be as they are. It is never free, someone has to pay for it, doctors have to make a living. But right now it's fucking absurd because of all the middlemen and of course insurance. Unfortunately politicians aren't good at explaining it to anyone or get lost in the fight.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave84311 View Post


    so you think that: if you get in an accident and have to go to the ER and get operated on and have a $600k bill; because you have no insurance you should spend the rest of your life paying it off. right?
    errrmmm. oki???.. have u heard of the amish? proud people who dont get into accidents because their milk isnt traced with MSG and Opioids no car crashes no cars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabbalah+ View Post
    errrmmm. oki???.. have u heard of the amish? proud people who dont get into accidents because their milk isnt traced with MSG and Opioids no car crashes no cars
    heroin milk now thats something i can get behind
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