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    The no knock was wrong. Who knew if they heard it

    Plainclose police officers???? I would have shot back without a doubt.





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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesHardenMVP View Post
    huh...

    Brianna Taylor’s boyfriend fired first and hit a cop before they returned fire at him

    Shoot at a cop... get shot at back. Logic?

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    They did say that they were police.

    Just wait until the rest of the body cams are released. They already released the 45 second footage after.
    Let's say hypothetically speaking, you're chilling at home on your computer. It's midnight. Your dad hears someone break down the front door and thinks who can possibly be busting in at midnight? Must be burglars. And decides to shoot his shotgun. Turns out its a swat team. Swat team is now like oh shit someone is shooting at us! They decide to run back outside and get a mounted M60 and decide the best way to neutralize the threat is to level your house, so they start rapid firing blindly into the house. Due to the high caliber of the bullets. An LMG round punctures through like 10 walls and domes you in the head, instantly killing you. Would you say in this hypothetical, the swat team was justified in killing you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard View Post


    Let's say hypothetically speaking, you're chilling at home on your computer. It's midnight. Your dad hears someone break down the front door and thinks who can possibly be busting in at midnight? Must be burglars. And decides to shoot his shotgun. Turns out its a swat team. Swat team is now like oh shit someone is shooting at us! They decide to run back outside and get a mounted M60 and decide the best way to neutralize the threat is to level your house, so they start rapid firing blindly into the house. Due to the high caliber of the bullets. An LMG round punctures through like 10 walls and domes you in the head, instantly killing you. Would you say in this hypothetical, the swat team was justified in killing you?
    Thats a terrible hypothetical.

    Lets say you hear the police knock and identify themselves. Then you shoot at them and hit an officer, at which point they fire back at you.
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    I’m tired of you keyboard warriors who act like you are the most knowledgeable people in politics and know every single fact about every situation. Keep reading your articles and watching your news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesHardenMVP View Post
    Lets say you hear the police knock and identify themselves. Then you shoot at them and hit an officer, at which point they fire back at you.
    Do you truly believe that a man with no criminal record, no arrest warrants, afaik no mental illnesses, etc. would want to murder police and then proceed to call the police right after? Do you truly believe a man that was intent on murdering police would only fire a single shot? And then do you believe the Commonwealth's attorney would dismiss all charges against someone who allegedly was trying to murder police? I understand that there's a not 0% chance, but it is soooooooooo extremely unlikely.

    Also nice dodge and a nice hypothetical. I didn't realize Breonna Taylor shot at a police officer. I never said they're not allowed to fire back. You just can't negligently blind fire and hit random unintended targets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesHardenMVP View Post
    huh...

    Brianna Taylor’s boyfriend fired first and hit a cop before they returned fire at him

    Shoot at a cop... get shot at back. Logic?

    https://www.kark.com/news/national-n...ign=socialflow

    They did say that they were police.

    Just wait until the rest of the body cams are released. They already released the 45 second footage after.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...op/3554995001/



    Also again, because of a law passed after her death, they're making cameras to be on as the standard, meaning cops can be charged for not having their camera on by standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesHardenMVP View Post
    Thats a terrible hypothetical.

    Lets say you hear the police knock and identify themselves. Then you shoot at them and hit an officer, at which point they fire back at you.
    No, let's say theoretically they have a no-knock warrant so they bang on the door without identifying themselves then kick it down and apparently open fire first.

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    The main take away from this is no knock warrants should be illegal, they put cops and civilians both in danger. Also the cop who killed her should be charged if not all of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hennessey View Post
    I’m tired of you keyboard warriors who act like you are the most knowledgeable people in politics and know every single fact about every situation. Keep reading your articles and watching your news.

    Go back to playing games.
    why don't you do something about it





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave84311 View Post


    why don't you do something about it
    alright then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hennessey View Post


    alright then?
    That means debate it if you don't agree





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave84311 View Post


    That means debate it if you don't agree
    Your wrong because you type with a red font color instead of a black font color. Unity not division my friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dab View Post
    second degree manslaughter.
    Someone needs to research the law. That charge could be brought up against her boyfriend, but for sure not against any officer that were protecting themselves. Damn it's a good thing you're not a prosecutor, you'd make a disgrace of the law.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave84311 View Post
    The no knock was wrong. Who knew if they heard it

    Plainclose police officers???? I would have shot back without a doubt.
    Boyfriend inside confirms Taylor and him heard it, just didn't hear the announcing. Also any proof they were plain close police officers? Or is that just another myth, just like that the officer's were at the wrong house?



    Police knocked and announced themselves on the warrant. Before arriving the 'no-knock' warrant was changed to a knock and announce warrant. So the 'no-knock' warrant is out of the picture. Bystander closest to door outside confirms announcing and dude inside house confirms he heard the knocking. He thought it was Breonna Taylor's ex-drugdealer-boyfriend so he grabbed the gun and shot. Police fired back resulting in the death of Breonna due to the crossfire. Technically self-defense on both sides, but also resulted in the death of Breonna. Sad and tragic situation, but obviously no racism was involved in this situation, as well as the jury's decision.

    What's the lesson from this case? Who really knows. Are we to make police wait for the door to be answered while executing a warrant, allowing suspects to hide/flush stuff or flee the scene to avoid such situations in the past? Do we get a high-powered megaphone and announce police on highest setting before breaking down door? We can ban no-knock warrants and shit, but that isn't even what happened here. Just a shitshow with a shit ton of false information around it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cursed View Post
    What's the lesson from this case? Who really knows. Are we to make police wait for the door to be answered while executing a warrant, allowing suspects to hide/flush stuff or flee the scene to avoid such situations in the past? Do we get a high-powered megaphone and announce police on highest setting before breaking down door? We can ban no-knock warrants and shit, but that isn't even what happened here. Just a shitshow with a shit ton of false information around it.
    Imo, lesson of the case is: Know what you're shooting at and where you want your bullets to go before shooting rather than "Door knocked down, I shoot" and "I get shot once, turn whole apartment into swiss cheese".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave84311 View Post


    That means debate it if you don't agree
    What is debating going to do? No one will change their minds and it will just continue on as it has increasingly in general recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hennessy View Post


    What is debating going to do? No one will change their minds and it will just continue on as it has increasingly in general recently.
    Debate is 10% of the time trying to change someone's mind. 90% of the time, trying to call someone out for being stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard View Post


    Debate is 10% of the time trying to change someone's mind. 90% of the time, trying to call someone out for being stupid.
    Exactly, and one side will always think the opposing side is stupid. So like I said it’ll just continue.
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