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    Can someone explain me in ELI5 manner what NFAC and ANTIFA are & want? So confused.

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    Had to look up what NFAC is..."Not Fucking Around Coalition". "[NFAC] is a paramilitary organisation in the United States. It has been described by news outlets as a Black militia. While it has been linked to the New Black Panther Party, it denies any connection to the Black Panther Party or Black Lives Matter." I see they're taking a page out of the right wing militias' playbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonyCat View Post
    Can someone explain me in ELI5 manner what NFAC and ANTIFA are & want? So confused.

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    Antifa - Antifacists/left wing political movement comprised of autonomous groups (leaderless groups) that aim to achieve their objectives by all means necessary, violent or nonviolent. They are "seeking to combat fascists and racists such as neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other far-right extremists. This may involve digital activism, harassment, physical violence and property damage against those whom they identify as belonging to the far-right." BASICALLY fight the "far-right" by ALL means necessary.

    NFAC basically a black militia. Leader has seemingly advocated that African Americans should form their own independent country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard View Post
    Had to look up what NFAC is..."Not Fucking Around Coalition". "[NFAC] is a paramilitary organisation in the United States. It has been described by news outlets as a Black militia. While it has been linked to the New Black Panther Party, it denies any connection to the Black Panther Party or Black Lives Matter." I see they're taking a page out of the right wing militias' playbook.

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    Antifa - Antifacists/left wing political movement comprised of autonomous groups (leaderless groups) that aim to achieve their objectives by all means necessary, violent or nonviolent. They are "seeking to combat fascists and racists such as neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other far-right extremists. This may involve digital activism, harassment, physical violence and property damage against those whom they identify as belonging to the far-right." BASICALLY fight the "far-right" by ALL means necessary.

    NFAC basically a black militia. Leader has seemingly advocated that African Americans should form their own independent country.
    so Antifa's ideas are good, but how they execute them ("by ALL means") is less good? I hear so much shit bout Antfia but if you look at what they want, I cannot understand why they get shit in the first place, but now I can imagine that they don't give a fuck about how they achieve something (which is bad). Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonyCat View Post


    so Antifa's ideas are good, but how they execute them ("by ALL means") is less good? I hear so much shit bout Antfia but if you look at what they want, I cannot understand why they get shit in the first place, but now I can imagine that they don't give a fuck about how they achieve something (which is bad). Right?
    I mean that depends on your own moral code. Do I think murder is bad? Sure. Would I care if a pedophile got murdered in prison? Don't care. Do I think using force to push ones ideas is bad? Sure. Do I care if someone punches someone who truly believes in white supremacy and Nazism? Don't care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti View Post
    Good on paper, bad in practice I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HexOmega View Post
    This is getting very intresting. I'm kinda sure this ends after the election
    You are mistaken if you think this ends after the election.

    It doesn't matter who wins. America is already fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonyCat View Post


    so Antifa's ideas are good, but how they execute them ("by ALL means") is less good? I hear so much shit bout Antfia but if you look at what they want, I cannot understand why they get shit in the first place, but now I can imagine that they don't give a fuck about how they achieve something (which is bad). Right?
    You're assuming antifa is an organization and has an actual plan to achieve a specified goal. There is no organized plan to combat fascism, it's literally just a bunch of people who show up to protests or events to oppose right wingers doing dumb shit. Unlike actual organized right wing groups like the boogooloo guys or proud boys there is no plan. Also associating antifa with lone actors in a protest burning shit is wrong. Majority of Antifa believers actions have been non violent counter protests.

    The reason why you keep hearing about antifa is because the media is trying to give you a more specified name or identity to disagree with. Problem is idiots are treating an ideology like an organization, and disregard legal precedent when it comes to fabricated problems.


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    I mean that depends on your own moral code. Do I think murder is bad? Sure. Would I care if a pedophile got murdered in prison? Don't care. Do I think using force to push ones ideas is bad? Sure. Do I care if someone punches someone who truly believes in white supremacy and Nazism? Don't care.
    What you just described is discrimination. Murder is unlawful, unlawful killing is never justified. Whether it's a lone person or the actual government nobody should be killed unless they're posing an immediate threat to someones life. Same with violence especially violence against others because you disagree with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dab View Post
    What you just described is discrimination. Murder is unlawful, unlawful killing is never justified. Whether it's a lone person or the actual government nobody should be killed unless they're posing an immediate threat to someones life. Same with violence especially violence against others because you disagree with them.
    Murder is unlawful. Yes. The definition is quite literally "the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another". I do disagree with the "unlawful killing is never justified" statement though. I believe that justification is based not on law (lawful vs unlawful) but rather on one's own morals for what counts as justified. But yes, generally speaking nobody should be killed unless they're posing an immediate threat to someone's life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard View Post


    Murder is unlawful. Yes. The definition is quite literally "the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another". I do disagree with the "unlawful killing is never justified" statement though. I believe that justification is based not on law (lawful vs unlawful) but rather on one's own morals for what counts as justified. But yes, generally speaking nobody should be killed unless they're posing an immediate threat to someone's life.
    The same applies to Hitler, members of the SS, pedophiles, serial killers, etc.. Killing someone especially using the gov's hand to do so is never right. If you saw the fat dude from Subway in real life and let him die because he watches kiddy porn, you are in the wrong. Killing people because you don't like what they did is stupid and leads to more conflict than it solves. If you really feel so much hatred in your heart that you're willing to kill someone, then how about rationalize that hatred and torture them through imprisonment instead. Because the moment you take their life when you didn't have to meaning to save yourself or someone else in immediate danger, you are in the wrong.
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