Time doesn't really exist - theory

[ShAg12345]

i think sals was pretty daym on it ha

[Sals]

i think sals was pretty daym on it ha

Dam right I was xD

[Paroxysm]

Things aren't real because we believe they are, things exist irrespective of our consciousness.

For the purposes of making a clear conclusion I'll have to take the position that time exists.

[ben2134]

Space is Space, it has nothing to do with time, it has "evolved"(and i use this term loosely)because of many chemical reactions over a long period, it's not time that has had anything to do with the development of "space" or also known as the universe, Galaxies are because of the gravity, galaxies are made up of a very large(by very large i mean millions even billions of stars) cluster of stars help together by gravity, stars are made my nuclear fusion in a Nubula, people would say it takes time for it to develop, that's true, but the time isn't what is making it, it's the nuclear fusion, the time is what humans made up to cover the range of how long it took it to develop, so in the end time has nothing to do with space other than covering the range of how long it took all that to happen, and time travel is not an issue i would like to discuss =)

[Paroxysm]

Space is Space, it has nothing to do with time, it has "evolved"(and i use this term loosely)because of many chemical reactions over a long period, it's not time that has had anything to do with the development of "space" or also known as the universe, suns are made my nuclear fusion in a Nubula, people would say it takes time for it to develop, that's true, but the time isn't what is making it, it's the nuclear fusion, the time is what humans made up to cover the range of how long it took it to develop

How can you have changes in the position of objects in space without time? To perceive motion you need a starting position and another frame, how do you bridge the gap?

[ben2134]

How can you have changes in the position of objects in space without time?

things change positions by everything working together in the system in which it's included, i'd like to say gravity has a major factor in why everything moves, but that would be going a little far

[Sals]

Space is Space, it has nothing to do with time, it has "evolved"(and i use this term loosely)because of many chemical reactions over a long period, it's not time that has had anything to do with the development of "space" or also known as the universe, suns are made my nuclear fusion in a Nubula, people would say it takes time for it to develop, that's true, but the time isn't what is making it, it's the nuclear fusion, the time is what humans made up to cover the range of how long it took it to develop

No.

Space and time are "woven" together.
They are not two separate things.

Think about it:
The heavier an object the more force it has right?
Well think about a planet in space the shear weight creates a cone like effect in the "woven" space time.

This create the effect of a gravity, the slope causes any thing that passes close to the planet to be "sucked in".
Also how do you think meteorites collide with the earth?

They pass so close they are pulled in by our gravity.

The gravity is created from the center of the earth.
But an effect is also caused from the bending of the space time.

In conclusion space and time are one thing.

Just for more proof: https://www.boloji.net/hinduism/038.htm

[Paroxysm]

things change positions by everything working together in the system in which it's included, i'd like to say gravity has a major factor in why everything moves, but that would be going a little far

To perceive gravity you need a reference and an end frame. For systems to work there would be to be motion, motion is a product of changes in position, changes in position occur over set intervals.

They pass so close they are pulled in by our gravity.

They fall into our gravitational well, all objects near earth are pulled by our gravity but they don't collide with us.

[ben2134]

To perceive gravity you need a reference and an end frame. For systems to work there would be to be motion, motion is a product of changes in position, changes in position occur over set intervals.

Yes, but motion itself is not created by time, time is the measurement that Humans made up to record how long it took for that motion to occur, it has no effect to the motion, as persay runners, you record their time from one point to another, that is motion, it's not time the makes them run, it a measurement, so therefor, as i said before, time has nothing to do with space, if time wasn't part of our Culture, everything(outside of our culture) would still work the way it always has

[Paroxysm]

Yes, but motion itself is not created by time, time is the measurement that Humans made up to record how long it took for that motion to occur, it has no effect to the motion, as persay runners, you record their time from one point to another, that is motion, it's not time the makes them run, it a measurement, so therefor, as i said before, time has nothing to do with space, if time wasn't part of our Culture, everything(outside of our culture) would still work the way it always has

Just because we wouldn't have a concept of time doesn't mean it wouldn't exist. We didn't have the concept of diseases for over a hundred thousand years but they still existed. Time isn't making runners run, time is allowing runners to run.

[Sals]

To perceive gravity you need a reference and an end frame. For systems to work there would be to be motion, motion is a product of changes in position, changes in position occur over set intervals.



They fall into our gravitational well, all objects near earth are pulled by our gravity but they don't collide with us.

Hmm yeah thats where your wrong.

Objects do collide with earth.

What do you think we have a force field stopping it?

Please explain.

[ben2134]

Just because we wouldn't have a concept of time doesn't mean it wouldn't exist. We didn't have the concept of diseases for over a hundred thousand years but they still existed. Time isn't making runners run, time is allowing runners to run.

Runners legs are allowing runners to run, time is measuring how long it took them

[ben2134]

Hmm yeah thats where your wrong.

Objects do collide with earth.

What do you think we have a force field stopping it?

Please explain.

If you wish for him to explain please do not in this topic seeing as it's not correct, but i would have to agree with you, Asteroids hit the earth all the time, they just get a lot smaller when they burn up in the atmosphere, but the earth was infact created by larger asteroids colliding together

[Hassan]

Time Does Exists !!!

Let's say Michael Jackson died last year on 25th June. Today it's 25th June 2010. We say its exactly 1 year !! Now let's exclude time from our lives. How're you gonna tell me when Michael Jackson died ???

You can't !!

Even when you use the word "Blink", you use time in it. It's not just about organizing !! Time has a relation with our universe.

Existence of time belongs to the same category of question as how long is “length”. They are interdependent and arbitrary notions. Length / Space cannot be measured / experienced without time and vice versa. So, Time is as real as any other dimension !!!

[Paroxysm]

Hmm yeah thats where your wrong.

Objects do collide with earth.

What do you think we have a force field stopping it?

Please explain.

WTF? Of course objects collide with the earth, but not all objects that are pulled by the earths gravity collide with the earth.