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    [Question] Java and C++[Close]

    Hi,

    I am planning to change to Java, but before doing that i want to ask a question.

    Thank you.

    - Can you make a game with Java?

    - Can you make a hack with Java?

    - Is this like C++, but more better and less complicated?

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    Don't switch to java. Java just sucks.
    1. Yes, but inconvienent.
    2. I assume Memory Hacks at the MOST
    3. Less Complicated. WAY Less powerful.
    Not Better, but easier

    I assume you're switching because you find C++ too complicated.
    -Probably because you're Learning the Inside Outs of programming, and all the logic behind it, such as If statements, Functions, classes, loops, etc. Chose an easier language to learn, because learning easier languages will also make learning the logic easier.

    Easier languages are stuff like LUA (scripting), PERL (scripting) BASIC, BlitzPlus, etc

    C++ isnt necesairily(sp lawls) the easiest language.
    And learning The meat, or logic of programming, While learning a HIGH level language isnt easy.

    Not to mention, if you want to do games with C++ you need to learn an API with it.

    But if you want to learn Java, go for it. But i assure you if you try learning C++ after, it will be a WHOLE LOT easier, AND if you know Java AND C++, and want a programming job, theyll like you.
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    If you want to make games, Chose BlitzPlus. All the things needed for games (2d) are in it. It's A Hybrid of BASIC/C.

    You can also chose Blitz3D for 3d games (Harder)
    https://www.blitzbasic.com/Products/_index_.php
    Last edited by Kallisti; 07-19-2010 at 12:53 PM.

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    and yes with java you can make games like runescape

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    Quote Originally Posted by TailsTehFox View Post


    If you want to make games, Chose BlitzPlus. All the things needed for games (2d) are in it. It's A Hybrid of BASIC/C.

    You can also chose Blitz3D for 3d games (Harder)
    The Official Blitz Website
    I like your advide though, but i have another question with the Blitz3D.

    - Do you need to learn C++ or Java to make game with Blitz3D or you got to learn the Blitz3D language?

    Thank you TailsTehFox./yea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagn View Post
    I like your advide though, but i have another question with the Blitz3D.

    - Do you need to learn C++ or Java to make game with Blitz3D or you got to learn the Blitz3D language?

    Thank you TailsTehFox./yea
    Blitz3D is a member of BlitzBASIC.
    Its saved as .bb

    They cost however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TailsTehFox View Post


    Blitz3D is a member of BlitzBASIC.
    Its saved as .bb

    They cost however.
    Ohh, so i got to learn the BlitzBASIC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagn View Post
    Ohh, so i got to learn the BlitzBASIC?
    Its a Game specific language.
    No need for an api like sdl or allegro like youd need for c++
    all the input,audio,graphics,etc functions are in it

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    Quote Originally Posted by TailsTehFox View Post


    Its a Game specific language.
    No need for an api like sdl or allegro like youd need for c++
    all the input,audio,graphics,etc functions are in it
    Ohh thanks! If it was another language, i would just stick with Java and C++.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisti View Post
    Don't switch to java. Java just sucks.
    1. Yes, but inconvienent.
    2. I assume Memory Hacks at the MOST
    3. Less Complicated. WAY Less powerful.
    Not Better, but easier

    I assume you're switching because you find C++ too complicated.
    -Probably because you're Learning the Inside Outs of programming, and all the logic behind it, such as If statements, Functions, classes, loops, etc. Chose an easier language to learn, because learning easier languages will also make learning the logic easier.

    Easier languages are stuff like LUA (scripting), PERL (scripting) BASIC, BlitzPlus, etc

    C++ isnt necesairily(sp lawls) the easiest language.
    And learning The meat, or logic of programming, While learning a HIGH level language isnt easy.

    Not to mention, if you want to do games with C++ you need to learn an API with it.

    But if you want to learn Java, go for it. But i assure you if you try learning C++ after, it will be a WHOLE LOT easier, AND if you know Java AND C++, and want a programming job, theyll like you.
    _____________________________

    If you want to make games, Chose BlitzPlus. All the things needed for games (2d) are in it. It's A Hybrid of BASIC/C.

    You can also chose Blitz3D for 3d games (Harder)
    The Official Blitz Website
    You are an idiot.
    Java is just as powerful as C++, has a larger amount of 3rd party APIs, and you can do any type of hack you wish to do as long as there is a JVM available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _optix View Post
    You are an idiot.
    Java is just as powerful as C++, has a larger amount of 3rd party APIs, and you can do any type of hack you wish to do as long as there is a JVM available.
    A. Watch the flaming and baiting
    B. Don't Bump topics older then 7 days


    C. Finally,

    Yes you can make games with Java, in fact cross platform versatile games.

    With similar syntax to C , it should be a somewhat easy transition.

    Onto it's power, it is not backwards compatible, Java runs in a virtual environment, so memory hacks..possible., but with winapi . \

    it's generally a good idea to learn java because of it's increasing popularity. but reliant on what you need it for.

    In no way is java as powerful as other languages (like c++) but where it lacks on power, it gains in versatility and growth
    Last edited by NextGen1; 08-22-2010 at 02:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _optix View Post
    You are an idiot.
    Java is just as powerful as C++, has a larger amount of 3rd party APIs, and you can do any type of hack you wish to do as long as there is a JVM available.
    Seems like you just made an account to tell me that, good job.

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