God doesn't force shit down your throat like what you're doing.Premise 1: God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent
Inference: God has the power to convince me of his existence, knows how best to convince me of his existence, and desires to convince me of his existence
Premise 2: I'm not convinced of God's existence
Conclusion: God does not possess the attributes in Premise 1. Ergo, God does not exist.
If we are to use the analogy of the movie again, we could say his consciousness would be a CD that doesn't stop spinning, therefore, creating an infinite loop, THEREFORE, disproving your theory that God isn't concious false. It will replay over and over, over a long period of time. Kind of like the Big Bang theory right? If you don't get what I mean, search it, how in a few billion years, the process will restart.The only thing that makes God what he is, is his consciousness. Now imagine that his consciousness is completely immutable. If we are to use the analogy of the movie again, his consciousness would be a still frame picture, except that you can't see the photo because he isn't physical.
I don't get this part. If I want to limit myself to movement, then I'll just put on weights, when I'm done, I'll take it off. Understand my metaphor? If not, then here. God can limit himself, just as easily as we can.2.) If god is all powerful, he can limit his omniscience.
3.) If god is able to limit his omniscience, then he is not actually omniscient - and, therefore, not a god. If he cannot limit his omniscience, then he is not omnipotent - and therefore not a god. Either way your god's existance is an impossibility.
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Well here is my argument.
Whoever made the observation that God "Is not capable" of certain things that go against his nature makes little sense to me personally, considering that in the OT God had ordered men to do acts of violence, and even killing.
So..someone is wrong, or confused. I just don't have a clue.
There was stuff in the OT that made me want to alienate myself from religion altogether at one time in my life. I'm just not concerned with it anymore.
There's a difference between forcing and informing.
The universe isn't claiming to have a conscience, how are you comparing a being claiming to be conscient to something that isn't?
But if he limits himself, he is no longer God. He is limiting something that makes him God, which would not make him God anymore. Using your analogy, it would be like putting a box of weights on yourself, but with those weights the key is also in that box.
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So my senses are now a false polychotomy? Or are you saying that God has everything predetermined and he is basically a recording that will play repeatedly? OR are you still just trying to change the basis of the argument?
If God is all powerful, I think he can control himself. You're thinking of a bull in a china shop, but this idea is only a straw man. My proposal is upon whether or not he can limit his omniscience, not upon the results of him limiting his omnipotence.
Also, this is a debate of logic. What you think is irrelevant, if I want people's opinion I will ask for it.
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