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    Hack Detection

    Do you think a person at ahnlabs manually enters md5's from the dlls in to the hacksheild database, or do you think it is an automated program of some kind?

    How do you think they detect strings? Do they got a guy sitting around reverse engineering the hacks all day?

    And if so.. this guy must be a lazy rat.. lucky for us.





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    Quote Originally Posted by AVGN View Post
    Do you think a person at ahnlabs manually enters md5's from the dlls in to the hacksheild database, or do you think it is an automated program of some kind?

    How do you think they detect strings? Do they got a guy sitting around reverse engineering the hacks all day?

    And if so.. this guy must be a lazy rat.. lucky for us.

    I reckon each time a hack is used, the md5 hash gets sent to the servers.
    And if the md5 is used alot of times, it gets stored in database.
    No I do not make game hacks anymore, please stop asking.

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    But if you are playing undetected, how would it even know its there?




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    yeah...why if u keep a hack 100% private to only yourself...can you use it for a month, but pubs need updated once a weekish

    commando: You're probably the best non-coder coder I know LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by flameswor10 View Post
    I reckon each time a hack is used, the md5 hash gets sent to the servers.
    And if the md5 is used alot of times, it gets stored in database.
    Fraps, Hypercam, detoured.dll

    Quote Originally Posted by AVGN View Post
    Do you think a person at ahnlabs manually enters md5's fro the dlls in to the hacksheild database, or do you think it is an automated program of some kind?

    How do you think they detect strings? Do they got a guy sitting around reverse engineering the hacks all day?

    And if so.. this guy must be a lazy rat.. lucky for us.

    Manually? Fuck no, imagine how long that would take and thus how much they'd have to pay the poor guy D:

    They don't actually give a shit about individual hacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freedompeace View Post


    Fraps, Hypercam, detoured.dll
    I meant crashed
    No I do not make game hacks anymore, please stop asking.

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    Man, if I were ahnlabs /nexon I'd do so much better.
    Starting with PEB module checker, every dll that doesn't belong there gets thrown out, md5/cr32 messages get sent.
    Check my no recoil addresses for bytes that don't belong there: nop/others
    Build 2 separate builds 1 with and 1 without console. Impend a proper hardware/ip ban system. Make the driver start the engine.exe and not the other way around (as to block injection from the very start of execution) etc. etc, ahnlabs sucks dick. M
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    I guess nobody knows the answer.




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    Quote Originally Posted by AVGN View Post
    I guess nobody knows the answer.
    @AVGN i kinda answered it up there ... you know, kind of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by freedompeace View Post


    @AVGN i kinda answered it up there ... you know, kind of?
    say you worked at ajob 40 hrs a week..

    how long would it take you to get all the md5's from all the hacks from popular hack sites?

    cmon.. I could do that in like 30 minutes or less like dominos

    and they have enough damn money that they could afford $20/month to buy a vip and detect it. considering the employees probably make $20/hour
    Last edited by AVGN; 06-17-2011 at 11:45 PM.




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    Quote Originally Posted by AVGN View Post
    say you worked at ajob 40 hrs a week..

    how long would it take you to get all the md5's from all the hacks from popular hack sites?

    cmon.. I could do that in like 30 minutes or less like dominos

    and they have enough damn money that they could afford $20/month to buy a vip and detect it. considering the employees probably make $20/hour
    But they don't. And if they do, it takes them ~2 weeks to do so, which doesn't sound very effective to me. In my opinon, its responsible of them to not to do that. Not having something is far better than a cure. Improve the technology, not build a 50MB list of hashes.

    AhnLab are responsible for the technology. They are responsible for preventing game hacking in general, not just Combat Arms. Adding hashes for Combat Arms hacks makes no sense when they also serve another 200 games...
    Last edited by freedompeace; 06-18-2011 at 01:55 AM.

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    @AVGN you know when alot of people inject the hack the hash strings go into there database and if the same hash goes into the database too many times they move the hash to the black list.

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    So its nexons job to update HS? not ahnlabs?

    That explains it... nexon lazy rats




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    Quote Originally Posted by AVGN View Post
    So its nexons job to update HS? not ahnlabs?

    That explains it... nexon lazy rats
    You just wait for NexonGUARD mothafucka
    Dont ban me

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    Quote Originally Posted by markoj View Post
    You just wait for NexonGUARD mothafucka




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