Ravallo's Tired of It.

[OverIt.]

So recently I did a trade with one of the MPGH members using @Ravallo as an OMM and it wasn't a successful trade. https://www.mpgh.net/forum/165-scamme...mplicated.html <-- That is the full story. Basically Ravallo made a mistake and gave someone else the account I paid for. I opened this thread up and it was resolved but I guess not... Hence why I'm here.

I got a recently update from my friend @Blake19 who spoke with Ravallo though MSN chat saying that since he has helped so many other people without getting paid for it he should not refund me for a mistake he made.. How is that fair? So I lose money because he helped other people?

@Time clearly stated on the scammer grave report that I would get refunded somehow.. It has been about a week and half now..

Screen shots of the conversation Ravallo & Blake had on MSN he sent them over to me so I am able to open this thread.


@Blake19 does not want to get involved he is just a good friend of mine.
@Dave84311

[Ravallo]

Funny how you need someone else to ask me those questions.

What happened:

'IWannaDie' was initially going to trade with 'CaptainJackSparrow', this was later cancelled since he was going to trade with you instead.
So we started the trade, besides the fact the trade took ages because of some Rixty failures everything went fine, till you suddenly left for classes.
IWannaDie and I decided to finish the trade, I TeamViewed him to make sure the payment was made and then I would send the information to you.

However, since it was late already I still had 'CaptainJackSparrow' in mind to send the information, which I unfortunately did.
Now 'IWannaDie' wasn't able to recover the account, and 'CaptainJackSparrow' didn't return the account.

I got a recently update from my friend Blake19 who spoke with Ravallo though MSN chat saying that since he has helped so many other people without getting paid for it he should not refund me for a mistake he made.. How is that fair? So I lose money because he helped other people?

No, my point is that I may have done 1000 trades already at no cost.
Meaning I have spent hours MM'ing 'pro-bono', the last thing I am going to do is making these hours result in a loss of $xx.

[OverIt.]

Funny how you need someone else to ask me those questions.

What happened:

'IWannaDie' was initially going to trade with 'CaptainJackSparrow', this was later cancelled since he was going to trade with you instead.
So we started the trade, besides the fact the trade took ages because of some Rixty failures everything went fine, till you suddenly left for classes.
IWannaDie and I decided to finish the trade, I TeamViewed him to make sure the payment was made and then I would send the information to you.

However, since it was late already I still had 'CaptainJackSparrow' in mind to send the information, which I unfortunately did.
Now 'IWannaDie' wasn't able to recover the account, and 'CaptainJackSparrow' didn't return the account.

No, my point is that I may have done 1000 trades already at no cost.
Meaning I have spent hours MM'ing 'pro-deo', the last thing I am going to do is making these hours result in a loss of $xx.

Actually.. I didn't ask him to ask you those questions.. I could have done it myself, I've just been PMing Time.. He just recently told me yesterday that I should ask you as well.. I asked Blake for his advice and I guess being a good friend he took it upon himself to do it.. I guess that's funny? No disrespect but honestly... Why are you using that as an excuse?

[Ravallo]

Actually.. I didn't ask him to ask you those questions.. I could have done it myself, I've just been PMing Time.. He just recently told me yesterday that I should ask you as well.. I asked Blake for his advice and I guess being a good friend he took it upon himself to do it.. I guess that's funny? No disrespect but honestly... Why are you using that as an excuse?

That's not an excuse, that's my first reaction.

[OverIt.]

That's not an excuse, that's my first reaction.

So you're just expecting me to get overit? Wordplay. Like nothing happened? What am I suppose to say.... Because you're a staff that isn't considered robbery. It's considered I made a mistake that's it..?

[Ravallo]

So you're just expecting me to get overit? Wordplay. Like nothing happened? What am I suppose to say.... Because you're a staff that isn't considered robbery. It's considered I made a mistake that's it..?

People don't tip us for providing secure trades, but they do expect a refund if something doesn't go as planned?
Don't think so.

Look if we would receive like $2 per trade it would've been different.

[OverIt.]

People don't tip us for providing secure trades, but they do expect a refund if something doesn't go as planned?
Don't think so.

Look if we would receive like $2 per trade it would've been different.

So why do guys always implement on using a MiddleMan if that's how you run things... I mean?? That logic. You knew what you are signing up for, you made the mistake and hardly owned up to it.. You didn't even apologize?

[Ravallo]

if that's how you run things...

That's complete bullshit, happened one time in 1000 trades

[OverIt.]

That's complete bullshit, happened one time in 1000 trades

Always use a MiddleMan to make trades safe as possible.. If you use a middleman and get scammed open a scammers grave report and they get banned... If a MiddleMan fucks up get over it? You should at least warn us... "Since I don't get paid for doing this if I make a mistake I won't do anything about it" Almost positive you've made a mistake before this is just probably the first one that has gone this far.. A lot of people are probably afraid of disputing the "Almighty Staff" It honestly feels like what we "normal people" say doesn't matter...

[Ravallo]

Always use a MiddleMan to make trades safe as possible.. If you use a middleman and get scammed open a scammers grave report and they get banned... If a MiddleMan fucks up get over it? You should at least warn us... "Since I don't get paid for doing this if I make a mistake I won't do anything about it" Almost positive you've made a mistake before this is just probably the first one that has gone this far..

Getting sick and tired of you really, yes this IS the first time something didn't go as planned.
Now please shut up and wait for upper staff to comment something useful.

[OverIt.]

Getting sick and tired of you really, yes this IS the first time something didn't go as planned.
Now please shut up and wait for upper staff to comment something useful.

Feeling is mutual... But if I tell you to shut up... I would get banned? Cmon.... Ugh.

[Drifts]

I mean I understand Ravallo's side completely but maybe if Dave is willing to give donator? Thats like $25 almost exact amount OverIt lost @Ravallo

[Nico]

Feeling is mutual... But if I tell you to shut up... I would get banned? Cmon.... Ugh.

Yes, you would. Rav is spending a lot of time for all this and never got anything in return. Trading is always a risk, our official MM usually minimize that risk though.

[OverIt.]

Yes, you would. Rav is spending a lot of time for all this and never got anything in return. Trading is always a risk, our official MM usually minimize that risk though.

So... Since he does it for free, it makes it okay? That's fair..

[[MPGH]Liz]

Closed pending investigation.