You guys realize that ISIS is not Muslims right ?

[Empire]

He wasn't really forced out but rather than he leaving Mecca because of Quraysh people wanted to kill him .and also the Medina's people inviting Muhammad because of the longstanding enmity between the Aus and Khazraj tribes was dampened as many of the two Arab tribes and some local Jews embraced Islam.
Muhammad, linked to the Khazraj through his great-grandmother, was agreed on as civic leader. The Muslim converts native to Yathrib of whatever background—pagan Arab or Jewish—were called Ansar ("the Patrons" or "the Helpers").According to Ibn Ishaq, the local pagan Arab tribes, the Muslim Muhajirun from Mecca, the local Muslims (Ansar), and the Jewish population of the area signed an agreement, the Constitution of Medina, which committed all parties to mutual cooperation under the leadership of Muhammad . and also about the caravan .If you do research about it .it was actually a Battle of Badr ,the caravan was commanded by Abu Sufyan ibn Harb which is leader of the Quraysh and also an enemy of Islam . Well of course in a war Prophet Muhammad did kill a man because its a kill or be killed situation .The battle that they loss was the battle of Uhud which is they are outnumbered and much of their armies withdraw . also which Jewish city that you were stating again ? you mean Byzantine empire?

p/s the caravan leader didn't get killed

They wanted to kill muhammad because he denounced the other people's gods. It's a pretty standard rule.
According to Ibn Ashaq they also killed the caravan people.

Battle of Uhud: Yeah, you are just lying there. The reason muhammad was almost killed was because of his archers going in for spoils.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Uhud

ISIS's goal IS to convert people...that's what they have been doing all the time.
Unless I'm horribly mistaken, didn't all the people who got beheaded by ISIS first convert to the Islam?

ISIS's goal is not conversion. Why would you think that? ISIS operates in a vast-majority Islamic country, why would their goal be converts?

And no, the people who got beheaded did not convert to Islam beforehand.

So you're telling me that :
Muslims kills and causes trouble and Christians & Jews doesn't ?

They do. But more often then not the reason for Islamic killing is related to their religion. While Jews/Christians don't do that in the same extent.

[Janitor]

Like it or not (sorry Ameer)
ISIS does want to enforce muslim/islam ways. They just do it in such a radicalist way that no other Muslims would accept them.

Don't be sorry this is a debate section, FYI I'm an Atheist.
@Empire But do we judge people based on their religion ?
A Muslim killed someone , do we call him a Terrorist ?
A Christian / Jew killed someone , do we call him a Terrorist ?

[Niku ・(￣∀￣)・]

They wanted to kill muhammad because he denounced the other people's gods. It's a pretty standard rule.
According to Ibn Ashaq they also killed the caravan people.

Battle of Uhud: Yeah, you are just lying there. The reason muhammad was almost killed was because of his archers going in for spoils.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Uhud

i didn't lie i just stated that more than half of His armies withdrawn/retreat . well yes he killed the caravan people like i said the caravan were lead by Abu Sufyan a Quraysh Leader and also an enemy of Muslim

[Empire]

Don't be sorry this is a debate section, FYI I'm an Atheist.
@Empire But do we judge people based on their religion ?
A Muslim killed someone , do we call him a Terrorist ?
A Christian / Jew killed someone , do we call him a Terrorist ?

Yes, we call Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhist(lol), and other people who commit terrorism, terrorist.

If they are inspired by their religion, i.e. they STATE THIS then we acknowledge it. The KKK is a Christian organization. ISIS is clearly Islamic.

Listen, if they were simply muslims who committed terrorist actions with no mention of Islam, we wouldn't mention Islam involving their actions. But they do mention Islam.....a lot. I mean it's in their name even lol.

i didn't lie i just stated that more than half of His armies withdrawn/retreat . well yes he killed the caravan people like i said the caravan were lead by Abu Sufyan a Quraysh Leader and also an enemy of Muslim

I don't see how caravans in a non-military time would be considered an enemy, even if they were carrying weapons.
(they weren't, just supplies.)

[Niku ・(￣∀￣)・]

I don't see how caravans in a non-military time would be considered an enemy, even if they were carrying weapons.
(they weren't, just supplies.)

Afaik , its a strategy of war .Its a supply for the Quraysh . ofcourse in a war the opponent will try to bring down the economic/supplies . who doesn't ?

[Empire]

Afaik , its a strategy of war .Its a supply for the Quraysh . ofcourse in a war the opponent will try to bring down the economic/supplies . who doesn't ?

:/ So muhammad started a war. That's kind of the point.

[Niku ・(￣∀￣)・]

:/ So muhammad started a war. That's kind of the point.

eh . afaik since before the raid they are already in war lol :I . oh well <_>

[Jew]

raping your 6 year old daughter

jews arent allowed to have sex before marriage,and definitely not randomly on a battlefield

soldiers breaking into your homes and kicking you out of your land

that was 70 years ago,and the palestinians wanted to do the exact same thing so who are you kidding?

[Jew]

harassing this Palestinian

body abuse him

there is a big difference between cursing someone,and hitting an old man - of course they didnt shoot the old man for talking shit,it doesnt fucking work that way

[Janitor]

there is a big difference between cursing someone,and hitting an old man - of course they didnt shoot the old man for talking shit,it doesnt fucking work that way

Which part of body abusing you didn't understand ?

[Jew]

Which part of body abusing you didn't understand ?

i understood every part.

the man insulted the 2 Palestinians,the Palestinians hit him

[Janitor]

i understood every part.

the man insulted the 2 Palestinians,the Palestinians hit him

and b o d y a b u s e d .
like pushing him , finger tapping him on his chest etc..

[ミHorizon彡]

and all of the sudden everyone here is an expert on religion

[Janitor]

and all of the sudden everyone here is an expert on religion

Welcome to debate section .

[Empire]

eh . afaik since before the raid they are already in war lol :I . oh well <_>

How were they at war if no side had taken any military action?

eh . afaik since before the raid they are already in war lol :I . oh well <_>

Eh...Islam isn't that complex tbh. There is a lot of misinformed people, but the actual history of Islam isn't that hard.