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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I agree with you here in the sense that maybe this pastor is exploiting the Word of God for his own personal gain,
    There are plenty of corrupt teachers..

    but I can also say..
    What about extremist clerics teaching children that it glorifies Allah,
    when they kill in his name?

    It is unfair to use individual examples of "Teachers"
    because the reality is that they are just regular men,
    and they have the same sin nature as you and I have.
    We cannot make judgments upon our faiths through the actions of a few stray dogs.
    Why do you think theres wars amongst the Religion of Islam. because many are breaking rules.

    Allah said not to create sects, and now sects are waring each other weakening Islam.

    Its used to be sunni vs shia, but this got settled.

    Now its shia vs wahabi + salafi.

    Shia = idolise imam Ali and Hussein, cut there heads open to feel the pain they imams went through, which all other sects disagree with. [this can count as barbaric]

    Wahabi
    salafi = These people are the ones who advocate terrorism, binladin = wahabi, taliban = wahabi.

    Sunni = probably the most peaceful out of the lot but their problem is classing them self as a sect.

    I call my self a Muslims, and thats that, i dont call my self a sunni, shia, wahabi Muslim because allah forbids it.

    Many break this rule without knowing it.

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    You shouldn't concern yourself with sects, this goes for christianity too.

    Its kinda pointless because in the end you all believe the same thing, but if your in a sect you feel like your somehow superior to others.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    You shouldn't concern yourself with sects, this goes for christianity too.

    Its kinda pointless because in the end you all believe the same thing, but if your in a sect you feel like your somehow superior to others.
    I agree with you here Empire.

    It's really stupid the way Christianity is divided.

    Like..Mormon's..Jehovah's witnesses, and the churches that advocate speaking in tongues..which is a bunch of bologna, and actually against God's wishes, as it is stated in quite a few passages that speaking in tongues was no longer accepted after the Canon scriptures had been fufilled.
    Yet this Charismatic Pentecostal movement thrives strong,
    completely misleading people..

    seriously dude..I will never understand.

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    The speaking in tongues crap is soooo funny though. People just repeat the same phrase, and then act like they spoke in another language.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I agree with you here Empire.

    It's really stupid the way Christianity is divided.

    Like..Mormon's..Jehovah's witnesses, and the churches that advocate speaking in tongues..which is a bunch of bologna, and actually against God's wishes, as it is stated in quite a few passages that speaking in tongues was no longer accepted after the Canon scriptures had been fufilled.
    Yet this Charismatic Pentecostal movement thrives strong,
    completely misleading people..

    seriously dude..I will never understand.
    All faiths have sects, and God has warned us about the sects which will break up the 3 major religions, and will cause war amongst them.

    Muslim:
    Shia vs Sunni
    Shia vs Wahabi
    Hanafi vs Shia
    Hanafi vs Sufi
    ect...

    Christian:
    Catholic vs protestant
    Protestant vs Christian
    Christian vs Catholic
    ect...

    Judaism:
    Main, MAIN MAIN ONE:
    Orthodox vs Zionism.
    ect...

    [Orthodox vs Zionism is a big one played around the world, Zionism are a matter of government, othodox are faithful.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visiblegaming View Post
    All faiths have sects, and God has warned us about the sects which will break up the 3 major religions, and will cause war amongst them.

    Muslim:
    Shia vs Sunni
    Shia vs Wahabi
    Hanafi vs Shia
    Hanafi vs Sufi
    ect...

    Christian:
    Catholic vs protestant
    Protestant vs Christian
    Christian vs Catholic
    ect...

    Judaism:
    Main, MAIN MAIN ONE:
    Orthodox vs Zionism.
    ect...

    [Orthodox vs Zionism is a big one played around the world, Zionism are a matter of government, othodox are faithful.]

    I'm starting to believe Christians and Muslims have been duped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I'm starting to believe Christians and Muslims have been duped.
    Christian = Lost in time [Its sounds harsh i know, but what i mean nobody really knows 100% about the past, Christians have there own opinions].

    Muslims = Stubborn [Different sects don't bother settling it like Humans and claim there the right sec, and result in warring].

    Jewish = also Lost in time [As if there past has been whiped away and nobody has a clue about it, but make suggestions at what happened to there torah, though there good at history].

    "Duped" doesn't explain it because duped = belief in same thing, but they contradict each other in such matters.

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    :/ the problem with islams structure is the same with the mormons, your relying on one guy "recieving the word of god" with no audience, no proof, only that what he claims is true.

    And then they go around to all the christians saying "oh we are part of the same religion!", just like mormons, and all this does is piss off the christians, because then the muslims go "look, jesus didn't die! we are of the same religion!"

    When that really says "hey, your following the wrong religion, mine is better" to the christians, which is pretty insulting. Then they keep claiming they are of the same religion, when clearly they aren't.

    -.-


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    :/ the problem with islams structure is the same with the mormons, your relying on one guy "recieving the word of god" with no audience, no proof, only that what he claims is true.

    And then they go around to all the christians saying "oh we are part of the same religion!", just like mormons, and all this does is piss off the christians, because then the muslims go "look, jesus didn't die! we are of the same religion!"

    When that really says "hey, your following the wrong religion, mine is better" to the christians, which is pretty insulting. Then they keep claiming they are of the same religion, when clearly they aren't.

    -.-
    I dont claim any religion is right. religion dont exist. Faith does.

    Becareful the word "religion" was used by athiests to people with faith as "idiots who follow nothing" :/

    Faith is all you need.

    Only God knows whats the true faith, but the problem is, How people label them self such as "Im christian" "Im Jewish" "Im buddhist" "Im islam".

    These labels cause fights, what doesn't cause fights is if you ignore the label, and say "I surrender to god"...NUFF SAID.

    We all surrender to God.
    Its our historical events which separate us.

    Satan doesn't effect those who believe, but effects those who don't.

    Not that athiests are bad but i believe there getting less in touch with god because there easy targets for satan. as they already did half the work [not believing.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visiblegaming View Post
    I dont claim any religion is right. religion dont exist. Faith does.
    wut.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by Visiblegaming View Post
    Becareful the word "religion" was used by athiests to people with faith as "idiots who follow nothing" :/
    Wut?

    Religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of life and the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency, or human beings’ relation to that which they regard as holy, sacred, spiritual, or divine.

    Quoted from Wikipedia. I don't see any mention of idiots who follow nothing, and I'm an atheist.
    THE ABSOLUTE GREATEST


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    Visible believes the very idea of words is an atheist plot LULZ


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    Visible believes the very idea of words is an atheist plot LULZ
    Or its the illuminati
    THE ABSOLUTE GREATEST


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    Minus surrendering to God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post


    Or its the illuminati
    Shit is real son.


    Remember Eth told u first.

    Hoax Alien invasion.

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