Guys..Islam is peaceful.

[Snake]

Except all of the proof of them "admitting" to it is debatable AT BEST. So it's more like, you walk up to someone, shoot them in the face, then get some sketchy debatable "proof" of the guys down the street admitting to it while you change your story constantly and distract everyone with other stuff so they spend less time thinking about what you've said.

You do realize that Osama took responsibility on more then one occasion correct? I have a question for you, if the government did commit 911, who flew the planes into the buildings?

Obviously your ex-CIA agent Tim Osman. Stop being the governments toy and accept the truth, once the world is in a critical state, the one you are protecting right now won't even think about you.

[nevs666]

Obviously your ex-CIA agent Tim Osman. Stop being the governments toy and accept the truth, once the world is in a critical state, the one you are protecting right now won't even think about you.

Did you just claim I was a CIA agent? Ah yes, the "truth", why is it all you numb nut conspiracy theorists think your version of events that day is the "truth"? I am not protecting anyone. All I am doing is trying to tell you retards what should be blatantly clear. Also my question still stands.

[Empire]

Obviously your ex-CIA agent Tim Osman. Stop being the governments toy and accept the truth, once the world is in a critical state, the one you are protecting right now won't even think about you.

Yeah ok, enough trolling.

[scotbud123]

You do realize that Osama took responsibility on more then one occasion correct? I have a question for you, if the government did commit 911, who flew the planes into the buildings?

Now you see, if you had watched the movie you wouldn't need to be asking me that now would you?

It covers every question you can possibly have, trust me. Once you realize your shitty government is a corrupt piece of shit you'll feel a lot better. (Knowing that you're not being fooled by some clever liars.)

Edit: Listen, the bottom line about 9\11 is this. 3 buildings went down went there were only 2 planes and the planes were only NEAR 2 of them. If it was an inside job or if it was really a terrorist attack that the government just made good use of doesn't matter. What matters is that the US government refuses to answer the questions of it's people, and that is just plain bad government. Investigations were demanded MANY times, most of those times the requests were turned down, and when they DID do investigations no one ever saw the results except a very few select people. That doesn't scream "we found something the people shouldn't know!!" to you?

[Wild Bill HickCock]

[scotbud123]

Also @Empire, I'm not sure what kind of drugs you were on when you watched it but in Zeitgeist they provide FACTUAL evidence showing that it is SCIENTIFICALLY impossible for the events of 9\11 to be as the government says they are. It's not just "an actual argument based on paranoia and stupidity" unless you consider facts "paranoia and stupidity".

[Wild Bill HickCock]

Also @Empire, I'm not sure what kind of drugs you were on when you watched it but in Zeitgeist they provide FACTUAL evidence showing that it is SCIENTIFICALLY impossible for the events of 9\11 to be as the government says they are. It's not just "an actual argument based on paranoia and stupidity" unless you consider facts "paranoia and stupidity".

also, jews



i like the protocols of zion better than zeitgeist when it comes to laughably implausible conspiracy theories

also, it has jews

[Empire]

Also @Empire, I'm not sure what kind of drugs you were on when you watched it but in Zeitgeist they provide FACTUAL evidence showing that it is SCIENTIFICALLY impossible for the events of 9\11 to be as the government says they are. It's not just "an actual argument based on paranoia and stupidity" unless you consider facts "paranoia and stupidity".

Uh huh. Factual evidence with a twist right? Thats how the conspiracy theories work.

Fact A. My opinion and what it leads to.
Fact B. Relates to my theory.
Fact C. Well this really has less to do with fact A+B but its still relevent.
Fact D. OK now i'm just putting in a fact to keep myself talking.


Seriously, i've watched it 4 times already(before you posted) its not anything special in conspiracy theory and its more or less just blind speculation after 20 minutes in.

"Aliens"


How

[Black Eyed Peas]

I can't believe this is still going on.

Let's just face it, Islam is a conservative and, in my opinion, retarded religion.
It gets people killed.

On the other side, there seem to be some off topic discussions about conspiracy theories here.
Americans may be egoistic douches, but they're smart and powerful, and there's nothing you can do about it.
And Bush knew 9/11 was going to happen.

[Snake]

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Obviously your ex-CIA agent Tim Osman. Stop being the governments toy and accept the truth, once the world is in a critical state, the one you are protecting right now won't even think about you.

Yeah ok, enough trolling

You don't know what you're talking about. You're defending people who would literally feed you to the sharks for a dollar if you know what I mean.

I'm stating facts here, not your silly opinions. People have to realize life is not a stiff block. Its not like a movie but its deffinately not the opposite. Your state, mine, everyones beloved country has betrayed us. We are the one being played with and YOU are the one who is being too ignorant to face the real truth, 9/11 was a set-up, and so is Tim Osman and you can not prove me wrong. Welcome to reality.

[nevs666]

Now you see, if you had watched the movie you wouldn't need to be asking me that now would you?

It covers every question you can possibly have, trust me. Once you realize your shitty government is a corrupt piece of shit you'll feel a lot better. (Knowing that you're not being fooled by some clever liars.)

Edit: Listen, the bottom line about 9\11 is this. 3 buildings went down went there were only 2 planes and the planes were only NEAR 2 of them. If it was an inside job or if it was really a terrorist attack that the government just made good use of doesn't matter. What matters is that the US government refuses to answer the questions of it's people, and that is just plain bad government. Investigations were demanded MANY times, most of those times the requests were turned down, and when they DID do investigations no one ever saw the results except a very few select people. That doesn't scream "we found something the people shouldn't know!!" to you?

I TOLD you I wasn't watching a 2 hour video for your sake. Instead of letting a video sum up your opinion, why don't you instead say it yourself? Oh and I like how you STILL have not answered my question. Have you even read the 911 NIST report? Why re-open a closed investigation when all the questions these so called experts are asking have already been answered?

[scotbud123]

I TOLD you I wasn't watching a 2 hour video for your sake. Instead of letting a video sum up your opinion, why don't you instead say it yourself? Oh and I like how you STILL have not answered my question. Have you even read the 911 NIST report? Why re-open a closed investigation when all the questions these so called experts are asking have already been answered?

The people who were SAID to have flown the planes into the pentagon and WTC towers COULDN'T have because they were either alive and well somewhere else or terrible pilots who couldn't even fly a small plane to save their lives let alone a jet liner. Not to mention that the answer given in those reports (which by the way were being monitored and openly edited by a member of the bush administration) did NOT match up with what actually happened. The "pancake" theory that they thought of was simply not scientifically possible because some of the pillars would have been left in-tact. Since there were no pillars left in-tact AND they were cut at an angle, that leaves only one answer: controlled demolition. This is also supported by the fact that an explosion went off before a plane even hit the building. Sorry dude, your governments been lying to you to get money off of a war and you're buying into it.

(They've done it before, history repeats man. They did it for WW1 by sending a ship full of Americans STRAIGHT into German territory after being WARNED by the Germans that it was a bad war zone and it would probably get shot down, and it did, just like they wanted it to. And boom, they're in WW1. WW2? They kept antagonizing the Japanese behind the scenes, cutting off trade with them, giving Japanese people visiting America a hard time, freezing their assets in the US. To make them attack Pearl Harbor so they can have an excuse to join the war. And the reason they gave for going into the Vietnam war didn't even happen, that's how gullible your people are. So just like then, 9\11 [among with many other similar attacks before it] was a clever way to get them to start a war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you're buying right into it. GG man.)

[Wild Bill HickCock]

only logical thing of all of that is the one about the pilot who flew into the pentagon

there is no way in heaven and earth he could have done it

that said, it was prolly some other arab with fake identity

[Empire]

(They've done it before, history repeats man. They did it for WW1 by sending a ship full of Americans STRAIGHT into German territory after being WARNED by the Germans that it was a bad war zone and it would probably get shot down, and it did, just like they wanted it to. And boom, they're in WW1. WW2? They kept antagonizing the Japanese behind the scenes, cutting off trade with them, giving Japanese people visiting America a hard time, freezing their assets in the US. To make them attack Pearl Harbor so they can have an excuse to join the war. And the reason they gave for going into the Vietnam war didn't even happen, that's how gullible your people are. So just like then, 9\11 [among with many other similar attacks before it] was a clever way to get them to start a war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you're buying right into it. GG man.)

You really go off the deep end lol.

If you think that America pre-empted pearl harbour, well you just might be clinically retarded.

How do we debate with a guy who can't even admit pearl harbour? Whats next "america made the nazi's kill jews"? Derp this guy is the gullible one here.

[nevs666]

The people who were SAID to have flown the planes into the pentagon and WTC towers COULDN'T have because they were either alive and well somewhere else or terrible pilots who couldn't even fly a small plane to save their lives let alone a jet liner. Not to mention that the answer given in those reports (which by the way were being monitored and openly edited by a member of the bush administration) did NOT match up with what actually happened. The "pancake" theory that they thought of was simply not scientifically possible because some of the pillars would have been left in-tact. Since there were no pillars left in-tact AND they were cut at an angle, that leaves only one answer: controlled demolition. This is also supported by the fact that an explosion went off before a plane even hit the building. Sorry dude, your governments been lying to you to get money off of a war and you're buying into it.

(They've done it before, history repeats man. They did it for WW1 by sending a ship full of Americans STRAIGHT into German territory after being WARNED by the Germans that it was a bad war zone and it would probably get shot down, and it did, just like they wanted it to. And boom, they're in WW1. WW2? They kept antagonizing the Japanese behind the scenes, cutting off trade with them, giving Japanese people visiting America a hard time, freezing their assets in the US. To make them attack Pearl Harbor so they can have an excuse to join the war. And the reason they gave for going into the Vietnam war didn't even happen, that's how gullible your people are. So just like then, 9\11 [among with many other similar attacks before it] was a clever way to get them to start a war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you're buying right into it. GG man.)

I honestly can't comprehend the amount of sheer stupidity you just posted. Where to begin. Let's start with the Hijackers. Before I start on the actual debunking, let me ask you this. If the government did in fact cause 911, why on earth wouldn't they just make them 14 Iraqis giving them a airtight excuse to invade, instead they make them from all around the middle east and abroad? So now they had to jump through hoops to invade? Well, now lets begin. When you say they were found "alive and well" I am going to make the assumption that you are talking about the BBC reporting that the hijackers were found alive in the middle east. RIGHT after the attacks took place. This has now been closed as mistaken identity's by the publications involved, due to them being common Arabic names and some spelling similarities.

SOURCE
SOURCE
SOURCE

Now the tower collapse.

(You don't need to watch the first video unless you think NIST claimed that the steel melted, and it isn't a two hour long video, it's 3-4 min).

There was no explosion before the planes hit the buildings, I wouldn't have to explain any of this to you if had looked at the issue on both sides. Instead you make one sided arguments based on ignorance that had been PROVEN, let me say that again, PROVEN wrong. You didn't answer my question on who hit the buildings and you didn't answer if you had read the NIST report or not. Regardless I think I have my answer, you are disagreeing with something that you haven't even read. You are just plain stupid. I'm not even going to respond to your WW1 and WW2 comments. If you hadn't noticed you syrup sucking Canadians were in both those wars too. You guys were involved in WW1 before we were, and WW2 was a fight for freedom in Europe. If you think those wars were fought for money, your a fucking moron.

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only logical thing of all of that is the one about the pilot who flew into the pentagon

there is no way in heaven and earth he could have done it

that said, it was prolly some other arab with fake identity

Not imposable.